Bane Vs The Winter Soldier

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
that thread had completely derailed on multiple occasions, in one instance to the point of posters challenging each other to post pictures of the jeans they wear in real life (I am not even kidding. TI, Quan and KT had a whole thing about it)

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Sheesh, this is an even worse match for Bane than Khan. Id take WS to beat Khan, as I would Cap, and since I said Khan would beat Bane, then I have to side with Winter Soldier here.

Yep, WS wins and easy 10/10

Originally posted by Surtur
Isn't there that one scene from Civil War where it shows a flashback to Bucky training with those other super soldiers and they go crazy? Isn't there one part where one of the soldiers uses enhanced speed to punch someone 3-4 times in quick succession?

Checked it and yep, around 1 hour and 14 minutes into the movie is the scene.

Looks like h1 finally realized how dumb his arguments were and is in hiding.

Obviously WS wins.

But Bane would last more than a few seconds. And definitely more than one punch. He'd probably block and dodge the first couple, tank the next couple. In that time he'd probably get a hit on WS, knocking him back.

Then he gets kicked in the face, punched again, and finally KO'd.

Bane doesn't have the strength to block a full force punch, nor does he have the speed or skill to dodge.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Bane doesn't have the strength to block a full force punch, nor does he have the speed or skill to dodge.

You don't need much skill to dodge a punch. And he does have the strength. Plus, he's somewhat of a tank.

This fight is really just a Bane durability test. He's fighting a defensive battle against an enemy he can't beat. If he keeps his wits about him he can draw out the fight.

Given that WS is faster and more skilled, it's far more likely that he'll land the hit and again Bane doesn't have the strength needed to block a full force hit.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Given that WS is faster and more skilled, it's far more likely that he'll land the hit and again Bane doesn't have the strength needed to block a full force hit.

However, the feats are a bit varied in their strength. For example, Cap = WS. Then Cap = Batroc. Which means WS would definitely take more than a few seconds against Batroc.
Then, Batroc = Bane. Batroc is faster and more skilled but Bane can take more hits.

I admit there are many better feats for the WS in movies but Bane doesn't have that many movie feats to begin with. And it may just be due to the skill level of the stuntsman, etc.

I just don't think he'll go down on the first punch. Or the second. Or the third. Which, by the way, won't happen 1-2-3. Bane is not stupid.

It's called holding back, Cap doesn't go around hitting everyone at 100% of his strength.

Bane loses 10/10.

Originally posted by Viritrilbia
Cap = Batroc.

Is this an "alternative truth"? Because it is quite demonstrably untrue.

It's just the normal DC fanboy attempt to low-ball Marvel so that their character has a better chance.

Originally posted by Dreampanther
Is this an "alternative truth"? Because it is quite demonstrably untrue.

Batroc lasted more than a few seconds. That is my point. And so would Bane.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's just the normal DC fanboy attempt to low-ball Marvel so that their character has a better chance.

The level of debating here is really low. In fact I like Marvel a lot better. I also know a lot more about Marvel. Please, don't make false assumptions and consider them arguments. Thanks.

I'm not attempting to low-ball anybody. Cap is one of my favorite characters and so is WS. Point out the exact words where I falsely low-balled Marvel.

Originally posted by Viritrilbia
Batroc lasted more than a few seconds. That is my point. And so would Bane.

Sure, as long as WS holds back.

Originally posted by Viritrilbia
The level of debating here is really low. In fact I like Marvel a lot better. I also know a lot more about Marvel. Please, don't make false assumptions and consider them arguments. Thanks.

I'm not attempting to low-ball anybody. Cap is one of my favorite characters and so is WS. Point out the exact words where I falsely low-balled Marvel.

You are pretending that examples of Cap holding back is proof that he wouldn't be able to quickly take people out if he used 100% of his strength.

The fight between Cap and Batroc made it clear Cap holds back against normal people. Once he realized Batroc was more of a threat than a regular guy, he put him down in 3 seconds. Bucky wouldn't hesitate and would crush his chest.

Bane is not a normal person. Batroc, while elite, still has human durability. Bane does not.

Originally posted by Viritrilbia
Bane is not a normal person. Batroc, while elite, still has human durability. Bane does not.

Exactly how is Bane not a normal person?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Exactly how is Bane not a normal person?

He has "Venom" inside him, like the SS serum, that enhances his strength, durability, and healing to superhuman levels. The word "Superhuman" is directly stated.

Even without the venom he is stronger than batman. With it, he can bend thick steel.
While overdosed, He has also shown himself capable of lifting 15 tons.