Originally posted by h1a8
Aim dodging that anyone can do. Outrun in 10-15mph cars. Push a guy off a motorcycle isn't a speed feat. Regular humans can trade hits with Cap. His enhanced speed isn't all that enhanced.
What a dumbass comment. Cars don't travel 10-15 mph is a freeway. Remember, you said you wanted to use implied speed, which means implied freeway speed.
So show me a feat of Bane back flipping out of the line of fire. Or aren't you able to back this up with a feat?
Name me any regular unenhanced human whom Cap didn't completely dominate in a 1 on 1 fight.
Pushing a guy off a motorcycle isn't a speed feat. But pushing a guy off the motorcycle, flipping the bike in the air and riding it while in the air all while the bike is travelling in a freeway is a speed feat. You'd have to be completely stupid to say it isn't.
Originally posted by FrothByte
What a dumbass comment. Cars don't travel 10-15 mph is a freeway. Remember, you said you wanted to use implied speed, which means implied freeway speed.So show me a feat of Bane back flipping out of the line of fire. Or aren't you able to back this up with a feat?
Name me any regular unenhanced human whom Cap didn't completely dominate in a 1 on 1 fight.
Pushing a guy off a motorcycle isn't a speed feat. But pushing a guy off the motorcycle, flipping the bike in the air and riding it while in the air all while the bike is travelling in a freeway is a speed feat. You'd have to be completely stupid to say it isn't.
Cars can go 0mph in a freeway. You act as if you never drove a car.
Flipping is an agility feat. Not a speed feat. What good is flipping in a h2h fight?
Cap has the stats on his side to dominant most human beings.
Remember, Bane loses a h2h fight. But it will take at least a minute on average.
Flipping a bike etc was not a speed feat. It was a strength and skilled feat.
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerYou know that I didn't mean that literally. I meant any human that can do the same flip. Once in the air, you are subject to falling at the speed gravity accelerates you to. But how is this relevant? It's not like WS is going to do doing flips in a h2h fight.
"Anyone"? Really, dude? You are completely full of shit. "Anyone" can't do what he did here, at 2:37:I didn't even bother to read the rest of your post, after that statement.
Now if you are relating his flip to his h2h fighting speed then I say that you are a hypocrite. This is because you argued against Ozy bullet catch as related to his fighting speed.
Originally posted by h1a8
Cars can go 0mph in a freeway. You act as if you never drove a car.Flipping is an agility feat. Not a speed feat. What good is flipping in a h2h fight?
Cap has the stats on his side to dominant most human beings.
Remember, Bane loses a h2h fight. But it will take at least a minute on average.Flipping a bike etc was not a speed feat. It was a strength and skilled feat.
Cars can go 0 mph on a freeway if they're stopped. Or if there's a traffic jam. both of which are not evident anywhere in that movie.
It seems pretty evident that you haven't watched the movie at all, seeing as you don't seem to know the scene I'm referring to when I said flipping the bike. If you knew the feat then you'd know why it was a speed, agility and reaction speed feat all in one.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Cars can go 0 mph on a freeway if they're stopped. Or if there's a traffic jam. both of which are not evident anywhere in that movie.It seems pretty evident that you haven't watched the movie at all, seeing as you don't seem to know the scene I'm referring to when I said flipping the bike. If you knew the feat then you'd know why it was a speed, agility and reaction speed feat all in one.
There was heavy traffic. That's why the cars were 10 feet from each other in many instances. I seen the feat yesterday. I do not get the impression it's a speed feat. Why? Because anyone strong enough and coordinated enough could do it.
Originally posted by h1a8
There was heavy traffic. That's why the cars were 10 feet from each other in many instances. I seen the feat yesterday. I do not get the impression it's a speed feat. Why? Because anyone strong enough and coordinated enough could do it.
10 feet from each other does not mean they were slow, since cars are capable of moving 10 feet away from each other when all are moving at 100mph.
If you saw the motorcycle flip feat, you know that it takes tremendous speed and agility to flip a motorcycle in the air, reverse its direction and be able to ride it before it's properly back in the ground.
In any case, it's far faster than any feat that Bane has shown. Bane doesn't even have feats of aim dodging. So we all know that WS is far faster than Bane is.
Originally posted by h1a8
They are lightning quick. Remember acting speed has nothing to do with fiction speed. If WS were to fight Batman in a movie in h2h then Batman would last about a minute or close to it.
lmmfao... you are forgetting that i love batman.. you are also forgetting i like nolanverse.. big difference is that i know right from wrong.. i know that bale bats isn't going to win too many forum fights.. no way in hell bucky loses to bale bats...
Originally posted by FrothByte
10 feet from each other does not mean they were slow, since cars are capable of moving 10 feet away from each other when all are moving at 100mph.If you saw the motorcycle flip feat, you know that it takes tremendous speed and agility to flip a motorcycle in the air, reverse its direction and be able to ride it before it's properly back in the ground.
In any case, it's far faster than any feat that Bane has shown. Bane doesn't even have feats of aim dodging. So we all know that WS is far faster than Bane is.
But both the cars were moving slowly and they were 10ft ahead of each other. I also posted the scene where WS jumps down unto the street and lands about 10-15ft in front of a white car. The car is easily able to maneuver out of the way of him in time. Going faster than 15 mph not possible to avoid him.
A professional ping pong player is at least 3x faster than that motorcycle feat. Give the ping pong player the strength and he can pull of the same feat much easier. If a human can do it then it's not a speed feat.
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
lmmfao... you are forgetting that i love batman.. you are also forgetting i like nolanverse.. big difference is that i know right from wrong.. i know that bale bats isn't going to win too many forum fights.. no way in hell bucky loses to bale bats...
If you go by visual speed over implied speed then Batman can't even beat a normal adult man.