Bane Vs The Winter Soldier

Started by Nibedicus25 pages

Originally posted by Viritrilbia
He has "Venom" inside him, like the SS serum, that enhances his strength, durability, and healing to superhuman levels. The word "Superhuman" is directly stated.

Even without the venom he is stronger than batman. With it, he can bend thick steel.
While overdosed, He has also shown himself capable of lifting 15 tons.

Dude. This is movie Bane. Nolan version.

Originally posted by Viritrilbia
He has "Venom" inside him, like the SS serum, that enhances his strength, durability, and healing to superhuman levels. The word "Superhuman" is directly stated.

Even without the venom he is stronger than batman. With it, he can bend thick steel.
While overdosed, He has also shown himself capable of lifting 15 tons.

You need to remember that this is the movie vs. forum. Feats and facts from comic books don't apply here unless specifically shown in the movie. Movie Bane does not have venom inside him, has never shown the kind of super strength you're describing.

Originally posted by Viritrilbia
He has "Venom" inside him, like the SS serum, that enhances his strength, durability, and healing to superhuman levels. The word "Superhuman" is directly stated.

Even without the venom he is stronger than batman. With it, he can bend thick steel.
While overdosed, He has also shown himself capable of lifting 15 tons.

Post clips where this is shown to be true of current movie Bane.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Dude. This is movie Bane.

Damnit... you beat me to it.

Edit: And so did two other people. I'm getting slow. 🙁

Yes, I am aware it is not shown in the movies. Otherwise it would be a completely fair fight. What I said was that Bane would last something like 20-30 seconds. He wouldn't go down in 3.

Even in the movies, he was shown to be quite durable. But if we just go by the small showing...I mean, we can't purposely forget other moments, right? 😉

I just think he would be able to take/block/dodge the first few punches. That's my opinion. You think differently, it's fine. 🙂

Originally posted by Viritrilbia
Yes, I am aware it is not shown in the movies. Otherwise it would be a completely fair fight. What I said was that Bane would last something like 20-30 seconds. He wouldn't go down in 3.

Even in the movies, he was shown to be quite durable. But if we just go by the small showing...I mean, we can't purposely forget other moments, right? 😉

I just think he would be able to take/block/dodge the first few punches. That's my opinion. You think differently, it's fine. 🙂

What "other moments" are we forgetting?

Originally posted by Viritrilbia
Yes, I am aware it is not shown in the movies. Otherwise it would be a completely fair fight. What I said was that Bane would last something like 20-30 seconds. He wouldn't go down in 3.

Even in the movies, he was shown to be quite durable. But if we just go by the small showing...I mean, we can't purposely forget other moments, right? 😉

I just think he would be able to take/block/dodge the first few punches. That's my opinion. You think differently, it's fine. 🙂

I don't know how long you have been posting here in the MvF, but just so you know, you need to forget all those other sources and "other moments" you're thinking about and focus solely on the movie version being described. If it wasn't shown in the movie, it didn't happen. That's how debates here work.

Plus, seeing as WS has guns as part of his standard gear, what's to stop him from simply shooting the sh!t out of Bane?

Originally posted by Viritrilbia
... Cap = WS. Then Cap = Batroc. Which means WS would definitely take more than a few seconds against Batroc.
Then, Batroc = Bane...

Well, at least we've moved from WS = Cap = Batroc = Bane to "Bane would last something like 20-30 seconds."

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Plus, seeing as WS has guns as part of his standard gear, what's to stop him from simply shooting the sh!t out of Bane?

The same magical aura that the policemen had in TDKR which caused Bane's henchmen to miss hitting them despite the policemen being unarmed while Bane's men were armed to the teeth?

Originally posted by Dreampanther
Well, at least we've moved from WS = Cap = Batroc = Bane to "Bane would last something like 20-30 seconds."

Actually it didn't "move" at all. That's what i thought in the beginning. 😎

Originally posted by FrothByte
The same magical aura that the policemen had in TDKR which caused Bane's henchmen to miss hitting them despite the policemen being unarmed while Bane's men were armed to the teeth?

Oh, I didn't know they could use other equipment.

In that case they would both take guns, obviously. Bane is quite cunning. But I think WS has the advantage there as well. Since Cap has more/less bulletproof armor it's reasonable to assume WS wears pretty tough body armor, while Bane doesn't.

Originally posted by Viritrilbia
Oh, I didn't know they could use other equipment.

In that case they would both take guns, obviously. Bane is quite cunning. But I think WS has the advantage there as well. Since Cap has more/less bulletproof armor it's reasonable to assume WS wears pretty tough body armor, while Bane doesn't.

They get standard equipment, WS constantly used guns, Bane doesn't. thus WS would be the only one to have a gun. not that he needs it as WS >>>> Bane in hth.

Originally posted by Viritrilbia
Actually it didn't "move" at all. That's what i thought in the beginning. 😎

"Actually", those two statements completely contradict each other. You cannot be equal to somebody if, in your opinion, you would get your ass handed to you by that person in 20 seconds. So either you did move your point of view or you vastly underestimate the concept of equality in a fight.

Originally posted by Silent Master
They get standard equipment, WS constantly used guns, Bane doesn't. thus WS would be the only one to have a gun. not that he needs it as WS >>>> Bane in hth.

I consider this a bit ridiculous, frankly. Because Bane didn't use guns doesn't mean he wouldn't, or couldn't. Maybe he simply didn't need them or want to use them. But he isn't a fool.

Originally posted by Viritrilbia
I consider this a bit ridiculous, frankly. Because Bane didn't use guns doesn't mean he wouldn't, or couldn't. Maybe he simply didn't need them or want to use them. But he isn't a fool.

If Bane didn't use guns in the movie, how exactly can guns be considered part of his standard gear?

Originally posted by Viritrilbia
I consider this a bit ridiculous, frankly. Because Bane didn't use guns doesn't mean he wouldn't, or couldn't. Maybe he simply didn't need them or want to use them. But he isn't a fool.

Standard gear is what is shown being used. Not what you think he should be carrying.

If someone makes a Cap vs Bane thread, with standard gear (i.e. shield for Cap), Bane doesn't get a vibranium shield as well, regardless of whether anyone thinks he might be able to use one. Or standard gear match versus Hawkeye doesn't mean Bane suddenly gets a bow and arrows.

Originally posted by Viritrilbia
I consider this a bit ridiculous, frankly. Because Bane didn't use guns doesn't mean he wouldn't, or couldn't. Maybe he simply didn't need them or want to use them. But he isn't a fool.

Forum rules give standard equip to characters.

WS had auto pistols and a knife in his basic costume (hell you can see the guns in holsters on his belt throughout the WS movie). WS had guns thus he has guns for any forum fight he is in. Unless OP stated specifically to exclude him in his stipulagions. Bane doesn't carry guns in his standard gear in the movie thus he gets no guns.

It isn't about what's fair. It's about the stipulations and rules.

Anyway it doesn't matter. WS can unarmed with one arm tied behind his back and he'd still win.

Bane wins if this is pure h2h and he avoids too many hits from the metal arm.
With weapons Bane loses.