Ranking Kanan and Ezra

Started by DarthDuelist910 pages

The fact that he was considered a legitimate RoT Sith?

They're both inferior to TPM Kenobi.

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
The fact that he was considered a legitimate RoT Sith?

He was always a “legitimate RoT Sith”.

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
I doubt that Maul would want a "likeable" or "semi-capable" character as his apprentice, especially since we know from Sam Witwer that Maul sees in Ezra the potential to become what he should have been (remember that this guy was apprenticed to the most powerful Sith ever and could supposedly carry on the RoT in canon).

Sam Witwer can say what he wants. Anyways, Ezra has a lot of potential, that's for sure, and one day he'll be something great(maybe), but as of now he's just an underdog and much like his master is semi-capable. Nothing too far above average.

Maul doesn't have the potential to surpass Palpatine, rofl.

Originally posted by MythLord
Sam Witwer can say what he wants. Anyways, Ezra has a lot of potential, that's for sure, and one day he'll be something great(maybe), but as of now he's just an underdog and much like his master is semi-capable. Nothing too far above average.

Sure

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Maul doesn't have the potential to surpass Palpatine, rofl.

Give TPM Maul 50 years of Sith training and he comes damn close

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Give TPM Maul 50 years of Sith training and he comes damn close

Who knows. Obviously Maul must have had Great potential for Sidious to choose him as an apprentice. But then he never seemed truly satisfied with a potential apprentice until the name Skywalker came along.

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Give TPM Maul 50 years of Sith training and he comes damn close

wtf is this, rofl

Even potential prime Maul would be destroyed by TPM Palpatine.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
wtf is this, rofl

Even potential prime Maul would be destroyed by TPM Palpatine.

No he wouldn't, anybody that can be considered one of the most elite fighters in the entire mythos at the age of 22 should be able to rival palpatine after decades and decades of extra training and experience.

lmfao retard or nah

What you just said has to be the most retarded statement I have read on KMC in the past week.

There's a limit to one's capabilities. Eventually Maul's going to reach a ceiling due to his midichlorians.

Palpatine... is Palpatine. He's the most powerful Sith Lord ever by the end of TPM, and still growing stronger.

That's ****ing obvious with the Rebels TV show.

Maul's a shadow of his former self, granted, but his powers definitely seemed to have reached a peak with SoD.

If Maul's stronger than that, it's not by so much he's then going to go from being ragdolled by to then beating Palpatine.

I don't think you understand this, but Palpatine never intended Maul to be a legitimate successor.

Spoiler:
Palpatine never intended to die in the first place.

Palpatine's thoughts on all his servants are that they are just really powerful tools and nothing more. Maul is only Sheev's successor in his own mind.

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The DP novel makes that clear when Palpatine reveals to Plagueis that he plans to be the final Dark Lord.

It's also consistent with the Book of the Sith and Palpatine's character in general.

Holy shit, DD9 reached a new level of retard.

its this kind of shit why i dont debate anymore

I'm talking about canon obviously, his standing in Legends is different of course

hes not beating palpatine in canon either, rofl

Firstly. Ant change your Sig. Its getting sad.

Secondly. Regarding Ezra and Kanan. They're solid Jedi probably in the top 10 in canon. But they don't even make top 100 in Legends tbfh

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
its this kind of shit why i dont debate anymore

It's actually a classic debate whether Maul was originally intended to be a full on successor to Palpatine or not. An argument that has a lot more merit in Canon.

Probably because Legends was just dumb.

And FYI just like Vader, Maul would have lost a lot of potential when he got cut in half. His knowledge of the Force also never came close to Palpatine's, (heck he never even learned Force Lightning). So you have absolutely nothing to gauge Maul's full and original potential.

That said, I personally still wouldn't put it on par with Palpatine's, given how excited he was at the discovery of Skywalker.

Not really. As long as we have a Palpatine that plans on becoming omnipotent and never planning to die, then he isn't planning on a legitimate successor.

And I recall people saying that "Palpatine reveals at the end of DP that Maul was a real apprentice" - I didn't see it anywhere. He confirms that all of Plagueis' ideas were actually his - which includes Plagueis telling Sidious to train him as a mere assassin, nothing more. After that, he makes some reference to him being able to use Maul to get rid of his enemies or something along those lines. Nothing about genuine succession.