Bane vs. Crossbones

Then you'd believe what the doctor said and would know that Batman prior to his Rocky-esque montage was not "just as effective."

Doctor: No, that's because there is NO cartilage in your knee, and not much of any use in your elbows or your shoulders. Between that and the scar tissue on your kidneys, the residual concussive damage to your brain tissue, and the general scarred-over quality of your body, I cannot recommend that you go heliskiing, Mr. Wayne

Does that sound like a man who's in good shape?

Originally posted by Robtard
Then you'd believe what the doctor said and would know that Batman prior to his Rocky-esque montage was not "just as effective."

Doctor: No, that's because there is NO cartilage in your knee, and not much of any use in your elbows or your shoulders. Between that and the scar tissue on your kidneys, the residual concussive damage to your brain tissue, and the general scarred-over quality of your body, I cannot recommend that you go heliskiing, Mr. Wayne

Does that sound like a man who's in good shape?

Of course not, but Batman performed almost equal to what he been doing. He busted bricks with an injured leg for crying out loud and took out random fodder as effective as he always did. This is fiction. Even in comics, a character can perform BETTER even when weakened.

He busted bricks with a device attached to make his leg stronger, that was the point of him using the device; prior to that he needed a cane to walk.

If he was virtually the same, why did he get his ass easily kicked by Bane in round one and then after his training montage came back and easily kicked the shit out of Bane. You're not making a bit of sense, man.

My advice to you is to go re-watch the entire Nolan Batman trilogy, because your knowledge is lacking, offensively so. Then come back and debate after you're caught up.

Originally posted by Robtard
He busted bricks with a device attached to make his leg stronger, that was the point of him using the device; prior to that he needed a cane to walk.

If he was virtually the same, why did he get his ass easily kicked by Bane in round one and then after his training montage came back and easily kicked the shit out of Bane. You're not making a bit of sense, man.

My advice to you is to go re-watch the entire Nolan Batman trilogy, because your knowledge is lacking, offensively so. Then come back and debate after you're caught up.

I disagee. It was an ordinary leg brace. Remember that he was using a walking stick.
He exploited Bane's weakness. Without doing that he would have lost again.

Originally posted by h1a8
I disagee. It was an ordinary leg brace. Remember that he was using a walking stick.
He exploited Bane's weakness. Without doing that he would have lost again.

Then once again you're using fanboy dreams over screen feats as we literally hear servos working in the brace.

As I said, go re-watch the Nolan batman trilogy, your knowledge of the films is severely lacking. It's over 7.5 hours long, so I better not see you responding for at least 8 hours, take some time to contemplate what you've seen.

Originally posted by Robtard
Then once again you're using fanboy dreams over screen feats as we literally hear servos working in the brace.

As I said, go re-watch the Nolan batman trilogy, your knowledge of the films is severely lacking. It's over 7.5 hours long, so I better not see you responding for at least 8 hours, take some time to contemplate what you've seen.

I didn't hear any servos? Do you have the scene handy?
I watched the movies once. I don't go and comb through scenes in order to debate for who I want to win. I use my memory of what the writer was trying to portray.

Batman did take out thugs as effectively as he always did though. There was no signs of him lost as step. I'll rewatch the last film again or at least the fight scenes of it.

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Now GTFO and re-watch all three films before you post again.

Originally posted by h1a8
, Batman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Crossbones in skill and speed..

I challenge you to a battlezone. Do you accept?

Originally posted by KingD19
Widow used "silly leg moves" on Bucky twice. When she first met him in Winter Soldier. And when he was brainwashed in Civil War. The only reason the moves were ineffective is because Bucky is almost as durable as Cap and just tanked her entire assault until he flung her like a ragdoll.

Black Widow used one of her "silly" leg grabs to put Hawkeye on the ground, during their CA:CW fight, which I already pointed out. And, as I predicted, H1 completely ignored, because it disproves his claim that it only works on fodder.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because Rumlow had gear and was changed in a manner that put him above a "normal human", why Widow's electrical stun did nothing to him and why he was strong enough to punch and send a glass and steel security door flying.

Normal humans can't do that.

I already pointed this out to him and, in response, he spent several posts trying to downplay it, while accusing other people of bias and not treating both characters fairly.

Originally posted by Robtard
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Now GTFO and re-watch all three films before you post again.

I've pointed out that the brace was mechanical before, but his response was basically, "Nolan didn't mention that it enhanced his strength despite mentioning it, in a documentary, therefore it didn't". And I am still waiting for him to provide these comments by Nolan.

Originally posted by h1a8
He's probably wearing some type of armor or protection that prevents electric shock.

He is clearly shown being tasered in his exposed, unarmoured neck. Get your facts straight before making these claims.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
He is clearly shown being tasered in his exposed, unarmoured neck. Get your facts straight before making these claims.

You can clearly see the gap between helmet and armour, where his neck is exposed and gets tasered. And if that isn't obvious enough, he even says, "I don't work like that no more" to make it clear that his damage soak is what has changed.

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Alright, H1 needs to re-watch CA:CW also. Get on it.

Originally posted by Robtard
Alright, H1 needs to re-watch CA:CW also. Get on it.

he can't.. he doesn't own a tv or blu ray machine....

Someone needs to start a GoFundMe for his ass

h1 hasn't actually seen any of the Marvel movies, he just watches youtube clips.

No, Silent. h1 hasn't seen any movie he debates about, as literally every single time he is 100% wrong and has to be reminded about what happened.

That's not even an excuse. It literally took me less than 1 minute to find, watch and post the Black Widow vs Crossbones fight. Because one of the basics of good debating is actually knowing your facts before making claims. But, instead of putting in a minimal bit of effort, he'd rather falsely accuse people who know what they are talking about of lying. He's a poor and lazy debater.