Originally posted by darthgoober
He wasn't a peer to Mxy, just a counterpart because of their joking nature. And he beat IM in the form of Super Skrull... and with some difficulty.
Superman beat him earlier than Mxy did. As always Surfer gets the lip service and Superman gets all the feats.
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Originally posted by abhilegend
Everything that doesn't puts Surfer over is lowballing to surfer fans.He outright says "Is this extent of your power?' after shrugging off his blast.
That's basically laughing at his power.
Surfer dodging a few HV blasts puts his in street level character's categories.
But tell me again why did Surfer dodge HV attacks? Isn't he pretty much immune to HV as per you?
Yes, that he was a rookie and couldn't control that much power. Surfer had experience over him and his entire body being a battery.
Kyle showed superior energy manipulation and did what Surfer has never done.
He actually beat Thanos who was hugely amped to begin with.
All Surfer received was lip service. He didn't look anymore impressive than Kyle.
TTA 93 where he hit Hulk with his board? Hulk was never shown koed, he was stated to be groggy.
Hulk had Surfer on his knees in one hit though. And the Hulk Superman fought was explicitly stronger than savage Hulk ever was.
Its not a controversial arc at all. Its only among surfer fans though.
Looks like Surfer was unhurt by Hulk's attack. Being knocked down does not = injured.
You can knock down Juggernaut, too.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Everything that doesn't puts Surfer over is lowballing to surfer fans.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He outright says "Is this extent of your power?' after shrugging off his blast.That's basically laughing at his power.
You never actually see the state of Henshaw. He's being blasted by Parallax in the panel after he's being blasted by Surfer and him saying "Is that the extent of your power" in and of itself is not indicative of Surfer being totally unable to hurt him.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer dodging a few HV blasts puts his in street level character's categories.But tell me again why did Surfer dodge HV attacks? Isn't he pretty much immune to HV as per you?
Ah of course, your denial of Surfer's super speed, right on time...
He's immune to heat, but there's a concussive effect to HV too. I do question just how HV would fair against him because of his immunity to heat and HV being reflected off of mirrors before, but hey... why risk it if he doesn't have to?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, that he was a rookie and couldn't control that much power. Surfer had experience over him and his entire body being a battery.Kyle showed superior energy manipulation and did what Surfer has never done.
He actually beat Thanos who was hugely amped to begin with.
Do you not even see the circles you're running in here? You're simultaneously saying that Surfer only did something Kyle couldn't because Kyle was a rookie so it's not impressive while at the same time saying that Kyle did something more impressive than Surfer ever has right before Surfer's feat lol
Originally posted by abhilegend
All Surfer received was lip service. He didn't look anymore impressive than Kyle.
I'm sure opinions vary...
Originally posted by abhilegend
TTA 93 where he hit Hulk with his board? Hulk was never shown koed, he was stated to be groggy.Hulk had Surfer on his knees in one hit though. And the Hulk Superman fought was explicitly stronger than savage Hulk ever was.
Still groggy and just starting to regain his strength minutes later... if you can't understand that Hulk was KO'd there then there's just no help for you.
He knocked Surfer down.. big whoop lol. And you're backtracking. You said that Supes had more decisively than Surfer could... that's obviously wrong because Surfer has the most decisive win against Hulk of pretty much any herald level character.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Its not a controversial arc at all. Its only among surfer fans though.
Sure it is. It's been debated extensively and even some Thor fans question it's validity.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He fought Mxy for several pages.Superman beat him earlier than Mxy did. As always Surfer gets the lip service and Superman gets all the feats.
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Originally posted by riv6672You said you didn't know enough about these characters to weigh in but here you apparently have become knowledgeable about the entire dcu in a week or so. Your opinion doesn't count since you've admitted ignorance. You embarrass yourself all the time. You want to argue comics when you know next to nothing.
I admitted a fight between Firestorm and Hulk was too close for me to call. I also made fun of quan calling another poster a fanboy (since he's the poster child), and he seems to have taken offense to that.For an attention whore like me, his inability to let these things go is rather enjoyable 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
You said you didn't know enough about these characters to weigh in
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Interesting!Thats all i got right now, sorry.
Then yeah.
You're a fanboy.
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Not calling a winner doesnt mean i dont know the characters.
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You calling ... a fanboy when you're one yourself and me making fun of you for it really seems to have chapped your ass.
I love it. 🙂
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And what you've been twisting into your own version of events.
I edited, but only because the things i said to you there exceed the PG 13 rating of this site.
See later quan. 🙂
Take a look under my username, quan.
I've been outlasting posters who've had beef with me for going on 17 years, which is likely longer than you've been alive. Most of them with way more mental acumen than you've got.
You'll break yourself against the massive wall that is my ego long before i run out of ways to laugh at you.
Originally posted by h1a8
Huh, what are you talking about? Surfer can't do shit to his peers. His blasts are meaningless on average. Surfer is a beast against fodder or beings below him. But he can't compete with any trans or skyfathers even at his best. Superman and Hal has.Superman has feats that are above millions of times beyond anything Surfer as done. But I'm just looking at average portrayals.
Anyway, Surfer would be in the top 3 (probably #2). This is being generous. He just jobs too much.
😂 Lay off the drugs.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Uh, Cyborg Superman had him dancing like a ballerina while Henshaw literally laughed at his attacks. He also said that even at full power he had slim hopes of beating Kyle.Kyle also defeated an amped Thanos and Parallax amped on his power and all Surfer did was contain the power which Kyle had already absorbed.
And what 2 wins over Kyle? The only win was fan voted win.
And no, Superman has already defeated both of Surfer peers Thor and Hulk more decisively than Surfer can do.
Surfer made mincemeat out of Henshaw so wake up from your fanboy coma. Henshaw would have been killed a long time ago in Marvel.
Originally posted by riv6672You don't know enough to actively engage anyone. Just because you're still there doesn't mean you make an impact. If you think you'll outlast me you're sadly mistaken.
Take a look under my username, quan.
I've been outlasting posters who've had beef with me for going on 17 years, which is likely longer than you've been alive. Most of them with way more mental acumen than you've got.You'll break yourself against the massive wall that is my ego long before i run out of ways to laugh at you.
It doesn't take a lot of mental acumen against a self admitted ignoramus.
