Originally posted by quanchi112
You use double standards for Superman all the time. This is another blatant example while ignoring the forum rules as well. You're done.
There mods must feel sorry for Abby. I don't know any other reasons why he is allowed to ignore debating protocols time and time again.
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he'd be in the exact same class as ss/thor. behind blue marvel? good lord.... fact is, marvel has no one like him. the history he has literally dwarfs the history of marvel as a whole. i could see them pushing him to the very top initially, then backing off a little bit, but his stature in comic lore would assure him a spot among the arguably most powerful in marvel. at least at first, until they decided to demean his history like they seem to have done with several of their main characters of late. i'm actually amazed that the discussion has gone on this long. imo marvel would kill to have superman in their line-up.
question--do you think if they had a choice they'd bring over superman, or batman? or as things are going now, might they choose wonder woman over both?? (she'd make for a better case of discussion per the stips of this thread--be interesting to see where she'd be ranked).
Originally posted by leonidas
😂he'd be in the exact same class as ss/thor. behind blue marvel? good lord.... fact is, marvel has no one like him. the history he has literally dwarfs the history of marvel as a whole. i could see them pushing him to the very top initially, then backing off a little bit, but his stature in comic lore would assure him a spot among the arguably most powerful in marvel. at least at first, until they decided to demean his history like they seem to have done with several of their main characters of late. i'm actually amazed that the discussion has gone on this long. imo marvel would kill to have superman in their line-up.
question--do you think if they had a choice they'd bring over superman, or batman? or as things are going now, might they choose wonder woman over both?? (she'd make for a better case of discussion per the stips of this thread--be interesting to see where she'd be ranked).
WTF...Leo doesn't make one bit of sense. I would love to know what showings he is talking about that puts him above marvel elites.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Quit being silly. He'd be a peer to Gladiator. That's it.
Basically. Marvel have books of beings that are Superman-like. 3 Hyperions, Gladiator, Sentry (almost)...hell, I know I'm missing some. The point is, why would they treat him any different than what they've done for people with the same powerset? Doesn't make sense to me.
Originally posted by carver9
Basically. Marvel have books of beings that are Superman-like. 3 Hyperions, Gladiator, Sentry (almost)...hell, I know I'm missing some. The point is, why would they treat him any different than what they've done for people with the same powerset? Doesn't make sense to me.
The Superman IP is like 100x more valuable than all Superman clones in Marvel's roster. And I think I'm being generous.
Then we put his feat history in play...
Easily top 3
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Name recognition.
Mindshare.
History.The Superman IP is like 100x more valuable than all Superman clones in Marvel's roster. And I think I'm being generous.
While Carver's right on paper (Marvel has many Supermen with the same power set so Supes is just another), there's more to consider, and you hit the highlights.
Originally posted by carver9
Basically. Marvel have books of beings that are Superman-like. 3 Hyperions, Gladiator, Sentry (almost)...hell, I know I'm missing some. The point is, why would they treat him any different than what they've done for people with the same powerset? Doesn't make sense to me.
Ironically enough though, Supes himself wouldn't do as well in Marvel as he does in DC, the "style" just isn't right. The reason for Supes's staying power is because deep down, everybody feels like they should be "the one" and DC continually pushes Supes in that role. Marvel would drop the level of his feats to a more reasonable standard and attempt to pass the spotlight around more than DC does so his popularity and sales would drop. That's not to say that he'd totally tank, just that he can't remain as iconic unless he is THE icon or power and Marvel just doesn't do that kind of thing well.
well, i for one would assume their style would adjust to the character. their style is different because it needed to be different, and because when marvel started up dc's style was getting old and wasn't as successful as it had been. marvel doesn't have experience with anyone LIKE superman. all their major players appeared almost as a unit or within a few years of each other.
now styles are much closer. i don't think it would be much of a stretch for them to accommodate superman and treat him in a way similar to the way dc does. readers would still be readers, and they would have expectations. it's the readers as much as the company that dictates the way the characters are treated. /shrug
marvel does seem to have less interest lately though in maintaining 'tradition'. that's why i said i think their treatment of him would change over time, but i'd be surprised if they did anything permanent to seriously alter what he is now.