Cybertron Vs Krypton Vs Asgard + Svartalfheim

All-Out War Between the Three Civilizations, Asgard and the Dark Elves are Working Together.

Which civilization gets destroyed, and which would come out the Least Scathed?

Asgard gets its artifacts, (captured from the other MCU realms like Jotenheimr.)

Krypton: Almost Complete Control Over Matter- ability for Liquids and Solids to interchange, near-indestructible armor, gravity manipulation, metal that can Shift and "flow" into the air seeking targets faster than Superman can Fly, after which it solidifies.

Cybertron:Machine Consciousness that is intangible, able to connect with buildings, shifting forms, armor, and weapons.

Asgard/Svartalfheim: Powerful artifacts, knowledge of energy manipulation, magical barriers and black hole grenades, invisibility, etc.

Where are you getting that Krypton should have complete control over matter? I don't recall them showing such powers in the movies.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Where are you getting that Krypton should have complete control over matter? I don't recall them showing such powers in the movies.

the OP could be H1

Originally posted by FrothByte
Where are you getting that Krypton should have complete control over matter? I don't recall them showing such powers in the movies.

I'm sorry if it was misunderstood. I put "almost" in there. Of course we are going by movie feats, but we can't deliberately forget knowledge from others sources, right? 😄

Even in the movies it shows their ships, weapons, and armor as made out of a material that can change properties...remember they are thousands of years ahead of earth, and they can manipulate matter as such.

But lets not go into this, okay? You know what I'm talking about. 😉 Again, sorry if the wording's not good. I can't edit.

A planet full of Kryptonians would probably be pretty hard to beat.

Originally posted by Robtard
A planet full of Kryptonians would probably be pretty hard to beat.

Nah, the Asgardians just unleash their Bifrost portal on Krypton and destroy it. Only Asgard has a planet destroying weapon on hand. Or the Asgardians just teleport themselves on Krypton and slaughter the Kryptonians, considering that the Kryptonians aren't superpowered on their own planet.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Nah, the Asgardians just unleash their Bifrost portal on Krypton and destroy it. Only Asgard has a planet destroying weapon on hand. Or the Asgardians just teleport themselves on Krypton and slaughter the Kryptonians, considering that the Kryptonians aren't superpowered on their own planet.

I'm sure you know more about this than me, but what about the suits they wear? Aren't those super durable and have their own power sources independent from the actual being inside them?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Nah, the Asgardians just unleash their Bifrost portal on Krypton and destroy it. Only Asgard has a planet destroying weapon on hand. Or the Asgardians just teleport themselves on Krypton and slaughter the Kryptonians, considering that the Kryptonians aren't superpowered on their own planet.

I'm assuming they're leaving Krypton on ships. Otherwise they can't really wage a war.

Originally posted by Viritrilbia
I'm sure you know more about this than me, but what about the suits they wear? Aren't those super durable and have their own power sources independent from the actual being inside them?

Yes they're very durable but unless the Kryptonians get their yellow sun-triggered superpowers they'll be nowhere near strong enough to contend with the Asgardians. Plus I don't think those suits are impervious to Asgardian weapons. Now if you were to make a stipulation that the kryptonians were all based on Earth and had superpowers, then that would be different.

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm assuming they're leaving Krypton on ships. Otherwise they can't really wage a war.

Which brings up the question where is the battle field for this war? The Asgardians still have their bifrost which can destroy planets, but I don't think the Asgardians have spaceships. They'll need to hitch with the elves. So this might end up being a space battle

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes they're very durable but unless the Kryptonians get their yellow sun-triggered superpowers they'll be nowhere near strong enough to contend with the Asgardians. Plus I don't think those suits are impervious to Asgardian weapons. Now if you were to make a stipulation that the kryptonians were all based on Earth and had superpowers, then that would be different.

Well, that stipulation would turn the fight boring, IMO. What would happen is Krypton's armies (think: entire race of supermen) would utterly wipe out Asgard's armies, and then Asgard would have to resort to something like Frozen Bifrost or Aether. That's boring IMO.

What I'm interested in is an actual fight between the armies. Now Kryptonians, even without superpowers, have a whole lot of technology and vehicles. I'm sure their suits are able to independently move and they look pretty damn durable to me. 😛

How about we give a select few their superpowers, like Asgard has Thor. How about Zod, Superman, Faora, and the others on that ship get sun-induced powers?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Which brings up the question where is the battle field for this war? The Asgardians still have their bifrost which can destroy planets, but I don't think the Asgardians have spaceships. They'll need to hitch with the elves. So this might end up being a space battle

It might well. 😄

Asgardians do have spaceships, BTW. But we don't have a lot of feats for the respective fleets of spaceships.
What I'm wondering is if it's more fair to give all the Kryptonians sun-based powers or only a few? Maybe they get them on Asgard but not on Cybertron or while defending their own planet due to the different suns?

Have you all forgotten about Cybertron? 😆

Originally posted by Viritrilbia
It might well. 😄

Asgardians do have spaceships, BTW. But we don't have a lot of feats for the respective fleets of spaceships.
What I'm wondering is if it's more fair to give all the Kryptonians sun-based powers or only a few? Maybe they get them on Asgard but not on Cybertron or while defending their own planet due to the different suns?

Have you all forgotten about Cybertron? 😆

It ends up being a lopsided fight either way. If the Kryptonians get their powers then they'll demolish both Asgardians and Transformers. If they don't get their powers then they get demolished despite their advanced weaponry. They're just too squishy. Now transformers vs. Asgardians... that would be interesting.

But if it was a planet vs. planet thing, Asgard has the advantage because their bifrost portal can destroy another planet. Plus they don't need to worry about space travel since they can just teleport.

Originally posted by FrothByte
It ends up being a lopsided fight either way. If the Kryptonians get their powers then they'll demolish both Asgardians and Transformers. If they don't get their powers then they get demolished despite their advanced weaponry. They're just too squishy. Now transformers vs. Asgardians... that would be interesting.

But if it was a planet vs. planet thing, Asgard has the advantage because their bifrost portal can destroy another planet. Plus they don't need to worry about space travel since they can just teleport.

It seems that the way they do it (teleport) is rather inefficient. They have one guy (heimdall) controlling one passage which can only go to one area at a time.

Also, are you sure the Kryptonians or Transformers wouldn't be able to destroy the portal room?

What we really need is more feats on the durability and power of the Kryptonian suits. According to canon they don't get super-powered quickly from Earth's sun like it happens in the movie. So I am of the opinion that a lot of that comes from the suit itself, which is why only Zod takes it off at the end, after some time to absorb "sunergy". 😉

Originally posted by Robtard
A planet full of Kryptonians would probably be pretty hard to beat.

Kryptonians are toast because they don't have Superman powers under their red sun; no amount of tech will save them from Asgard or Cybertron at that point, place em under a yellow sun however and all other contenders are done for

The assumption was that the Krptonians would be off world and powered, in order to wage war on the others. Otherwise we're pitting beings with superpowers and giant warbots against what amounts to human-level beings with tech that can't probably do a whole lot against the others.

Can we then agree to make the Kryptonians around Namek and Faora level? Meaning they still need their suits, they can get overwhelmed by senses if their masks break, they can't fly or use heat vision but they have the super strength, durability and speed as displayed in MOS.

It seems to me this would make the most fair contest... somewhat. I still think they're OP, but at least not as much as if they were all Superman level.

Originally posted by Robtard
The assumption was that the Krptonians would be off world and powered, in order to wage war on the others. Otherwise we're pitting beings with superpowers and giant warbots against what amounts to human-level beings with tech that can't probably do a whole lot against the others.

oh... well in that case Cybertron and Asgard are royally phucked

Originally posted by FrothByte
Can we then agree to make the Kryptonians around Namek and Faora level? Meaning they still need their suits, they can get overwhelmed by senses if their masks break, they can't fly or use heat vision but they have the super strength, durability and speed as displayed in MOS.

It seems to me this would make the most fair contest... somewhat. I still think they're OP, but at least not as much as if they were all Superman level.

Them it becomes unfair in their favor

Originally posted by FrothByte
Where are you getting that Krypton should have complete control over matter? I don't recall them showing such powers in the movies.

Dude if they have the ability to throw Saran Wrap in the shape of an "S" at you, they can do ANYTHING.