Cybertron Vs Krypton Vs Asgard + Svartalfheim

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Originally posted by FrothByte
Watch the first Thor movie. The world-destroying weapon is the entire focus of the third act.
with seen them all. I don't recall any of that.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Yeah, I really don't see how the "I don't remember small details" argument can hold up here. There is no way that anyone who actually watched Thor could forget a key part of the plot (Loki's plan), that took place during the climax of the film. Well, unless they have some memory disability.
I don't recall at all. Anyway, you guys are trolling because my second statement made this irrelevant. Prove that it is in their character to use.

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't recall at all. Anyway, you guys are trolling because my second statement made this irrelevant. Prove that it is in their character to use.

You don't recall Loki's plan of using the Bi-Frost to destroy the Frost Giants planet?

Originally posted by Silent Master
You don't recall Loki's plan of using the Bi-Frost to destroy the Frost Giants planet?
No

Originally posted by h1a8
No

Then you didn't watch the movie.

Of course I did. I saw it opening day

No, you didn't.

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't recall at all. Anyway, you guys are trolling because my second statement made this irrelevant. Prove that it is in their character to use.

Loki trying to destroy the frost giant's home planet was a major plot point in Thor. It was pretty much the end goal of Loki. If you do not recall something this major happening in a movie then how can you expect us to ever take your opinion seriously on any of these movie debates?

Also, OP states this is all out war. The Asgardians are warriors. If world annihilation is a threat then they won't hesitate to act first. Odin certainly had no second thoughts in erradicating the dark elves.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Loki trying to destroy the frost giant's home planet was a major plot point in Thor. It was pretty much the end goal of Loki. If you do not recall something this major happening in a movie then how can you expect us to ever take your opinion seriously on any of these movie debates?

Also, OP states this is all out war. The Asgardians are warriors. If world annihilation is a threat then they won't hesitate to act first. Odin certainly had no second thoughts in erradicating the dark elves.

Odin was at war in Thor the movie. He refused to use such a weapon. Otherwise he would have.
It's against Odins character to destroy ANYONE'S planet.

Originally posted by h1a8
Odin was at war in Thor the movie. He refused to use such a weapon. Otherwise he would have.
It's against Odins character to destroy ANYONE'S planet.

How do you not know that Odin was indisposed(Odinsleep) and Loki was in charge and it was Loki that was trying to destroy the Frost Giant's planet?

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't recall at all. Anyway, you guys are trolling because my second statement made this irrelevant. Prove that it is in their character to use.

LMAO... So, people correcting you on things that were clearly shown in the film is now "trolling". My ability to take you seriously lessens every time you post.

Originally posted by h1a8
Odin was at war in Thor the movie. He refused to use such a weapon. Otherwise he would have.
It's against Odins character to destroy ANYONE'S planet.

OMG. You really did not watch the movie did you? Odin had a peace truce with the frost giants. A truce that Thor broke. He was most definitely not at war.

Originally posted by Silent Master
How do you not know that Odin was indisposed(Odinsleep) and Loki was in charge and it was Loki that was trying to destroy the Frost Giant's planet?

Never mind the fact that Odin took the main source of their power, when he originally went to war with the Frost Giants. So, they no longer provided a big enough threat to warrant more extreme tactics.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Where are you getting that Krypton should have complete control over matter? I don't recall them showing such powers in the movies.
He's referring to their technology.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Nah, the Asgardians just unleash their Bifrost portal on Krypton and destroy it. Only Asgard has a planet destroying weapon on hand. Or the Asgardians just teleport themselves on Krypton and slaughter the Kryptonians, considering that the Kryptonians aren't superpowered on their own planet.
When did the bifrost destroy a planet? IIRC it was only destroying the surface of a planet.

Originally posted by NemeBro
When did the bifrost destroy a planet? IIRC it was only destroying the surface of a planet.

It was destroying the planet. Had they left it on it would have continued destroying it.

Originally posted by NemeBro
He's referring to their technology.

And their technology was never shown to do that.

Originally posted by FrothByte
It was destroying the planet. Had they left it on it would have continued destroying it.

It wasn't destroying the planet at all, Only the surface of the planet.

Ah, bayformers.... I am a Transformers fan, but Bay's movies are so poorly told, and the lore so horribly mangled that I couldn't make a decent argument for it to begin with.

If this was say, Prime, or G1, or even the Unicron Trilogy, I could make some decent arguments, but Bayformers would get mangled, at least by the Asgardians.

So it comes down to the Kryptonians vs the Asgardians, and a lot of the Krytonian's victory conditions hinge on A: the planet orbiting a yellow or blue star instead of it's natural red one, which torpedoes the credibility of their success. Their tech is advanced, but not as advanced as the Asgardians. The powers, and superior tech of Asgard wins the day for them. Only via act of OP and having a day or so to soak up some Yellow or Blue solar radiation could this situation be flipped.

Originally posted by Kazenji
It wasn't destroying the planet at all, Only the surface of the planet.

And do you have proof of this or speculation on your part?