Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Pretty sure Carver is not saying that Hype can walk around with universe(s) blowing up in his face or man handling beyonders on the regular. He's simply saying not to discredit Hype's high showings or simply throw them away.
And who was discrediting that feat exactly? As far as I can see no one was. However, golem was just going by that one showing and only showing which is what the argument was all about
As said many many times. We go by averages which include his highs and includes his lows
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Pretty sure Carver is not saying that Hype can walk around with universe(s) blowing up in his face or man handling beyonders on the regular. He's simply saying not to discredit Hype's high showings or simply throw them away.
Carver was saying we shouldn't ignore his highs, just because he has lows.
Except no one was ignoring them. Merely that we were taking his averages - in direct reply to golem.
Carver was all about saving golem, and jumping straight in - ignoring context.
I also said there COULD be additional context with the two universes exploding feat due to being in the eye of the storm and his other feats do not match up with it. Never said that's what happen but based on his other showings seems more logical
So in short....I'm going by his average, not his highs and not his lows but the universe feat is such an outlier based on majority of his showings makes it somewhat questionable and nor where close to being his average. Really don't get why there is a debate
Originally posted by -K-M-
And who was discrediting that feat exactly? As far as I can see no one was. However, golem was just going by that one showing and only showing which is what the argument was all aboutAs said many many times. We go by averages which include his highs and includes his lows
Originally posted by -K-M-
Or more then likely he truely didn't tank a universe busting feat. He has no other showingns to support that and has far more showings putting his durability much lowerIf he truely did NO ONE should affect him but we clearly know that's not true
Originally posted by -K-M-
I also said there COULD be additional context with the two universes exploding feat due to being in the eye of the storm and his other feats do not match up with it. Never said that's what happen but based on his other showings seems more logicalSo in short....I'm going by his average, not his highs and not his lows but the universe feat is such an outlier based on majority of his showings makes it somewhat questionable and nor where close to being his average. Really don't get why there is a debate
Originally posted by Galan007
Pretty sure that's exactly what he is saying, tbh.g007-psyduck
U used psyduck on me?!?! Cheeky git.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carver was saying we shouldn't ignore his highs, just because he has lows.Except no one was ignoring them. Merely that we were taking his averages - in direct reply to golem.
Carver was all about saving golem, and jumping straight in - ignoring context.
Again notice how everyone seemed to understand my point but you and carver.
Where did I say we don't accept that feat? Have a quote where I said we disregard it? But apparently we must take things face value and never question it when it comes to even though one showing competly contradicts his entire history? I was trying to possibly explain the feat never said it was fact. Said that three times now. Never said it didn't happen or don't count it but in relation to golems point is that his average? Golem again was just going by that ONE showing and as noted by a few now was using his logic against him
Originally posted by -K-M-
Where did I dismiss it?....my original post notice I said more then likely as in it's not definitive as in an option to explain his other showingsSo again what feats has he had to justify to be able to tank 2 universe exploding? Seriously. Back it up to justify it. Notice you're the ONLY one saying Hyperion wins and Golam which he said only universe busting powers should affect him which is not true and that is what is being discussed
So do we just go by high showings? No. When he has 99.99% showings that contradict that "high" showing do you automatically ignore his majority of his showings and just go by the one? No. That's faulty logic. Yes they have been hurt by less, and as I said a few times we go by AVERAGES. You have a habit for your pet characters just go by their high showings, ignore their low and the characters going against your characters you try to use just low showings against them and ignore their highs. Hence, we go by averages. If 99.99% of his showings contradict the universe busting showing is it logical to assume oh yet he took the full force?? The answer is no....a class 5 hurricane is incredibly destructive, but when your in the eye of the storm its significant less. Which COULD have happened and more logical. Did I say that's exactly what happened? No. But when his other showings don't support said one showing it becomes suspect and open for debate.
First off it is Golem with an E I specifically said Superman should not be able to hurt someone who survived a universal destroying attack, I also said I find these varying degrees of feats silly meaning I know Hyperion has been hurt by less.
Originally posted by golem370
First off it is Golem with an E I specifically said Superman should not be able to hurt someone who survived a universal destroying attack, I also said I find these varying degrees of feats silly meaning I know Hyperion has been hurt by less.
This is what you first said in this thread
Originally posted by golem370
It should mean barring PIS Hyperion shouldn't feel Superman's attacks.
Originally posted by golem370
I repeat somebody who survives a universal destroying should not even notice an attack by Superman because that is an abstract level feat and I mean top level abstract feat.
Originally posted by golem370
But if he survived a universal destroying attack then Superman couldn't do anything to him. Most Supermans couldn't survive a solar system destroying attack. Most herald level beings are powerful but most couldn't survive a solar system destroying attack.
Now does he operate at those levels? You said it had to be PIS otherwise. Based on his average he isn't even close
Sorry about the typo
Originally posted by -K-M-
Again notice how everyone seemed to understand my point but you and carver.Where did I say we don't accept that feat? Have a quote where I said we disregard it? But apparently we must take things face value and never question it when it comes to even though one showing competly contradicts his entire history? I was trying to possibly explain the feat never said it was fact. Said that three times now. Never said it didn't happen or don't count it but in relation to golems point is that his average? Golem again was just going by that ONE showing and as noted by a few now was using his logic against him
I agree that we shouldn't dwell on highs, but u went as far as to discredit the feat. At least that's what it looks like.
I already requoted u..
Originally posted by -K-M-
Yes. Notice everyone but you and carver are on the same page 😬