WW 3 Black Adam Vs Beta Ray Bill

Originally posted by Juntai
Adam got Deux Ex'ed, not beaten down and stopped.

Thanos got absolutely smacked by a team that wouldn't stand a chance against this one.

False. Show me the scan in ww3 where it says he was amped.
It would be a curious thing not to mention through an entire event.

Sivana said in passing once in 52 that he was powered by seven gods. No one else said it, it was never referenced, or narrated or shown that he was amped in any way. And when Isis died, her power was not transferred to him. It was in her amulet. Which he used, alongside her power word during the Dark Ages storyline, which he didn't have in in WW3, and even so, her power was so miniscule next to his, that it ran out of power powering his form for a short time.

We chalk this up to error. He wasn't suddenly exclaiming extra gods lending him power. He wouldn't even know something like that.

So if you have any actual proof of an amp that happened; show it.

This ^. Everyone says he was amped during that arc but i remember no scene where it was referenced.

Originally posted by Phil
If somebody says something is 'obvious', I don't care for it unless they can argument it. If they can't argument, it's simple bias [towards a company or towards a character]. I can argument each and every one of my opinions.

If I feel DC, as a whole, has more formidable characters [and I do], and if I can argument it, there's nothing wrong with that. If somebody feels the opposite, they should feel free and back up their view. Saying something is obvious doesn't make it so.

I don't care about ad hominems. I care about argument-based discussions. .

😖hifty:

heh.

and yeah, i don't believe he was amped either. not nearly enough evidence to support it. marvel even went to the gods to cut him off from his power and it was never mentioned, so i think he was just really really po'd... /shrug

@phil: dammit i wish i could quote that gif post. 👆 👆

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Adam was just pissed/berserker; not externally amped.

We've seen how significantly a change in just a characters mindset can augment their powers. A great example is Superman vs. the Imperiex Probes. Supes goes from only being able to narrowly contend with a SINGLE Probe under his 'normal' mindset, to casually shredding through MULTIPLE Probes like fodder after he stopped holding back.

Even if he was amped. Isis has never shown to be his equal or anywhere near it. Granted she's superhuman but her powere came from that Amulet. Im curious how powerful some users rate her when she has no feats

Wait - haven't been reading this - people still think Adam was amped? 😕

That was debunked years ago when nobody could provide any shred of proof or the slighted suggestion supporting the claim.

You could argue inverse ninja law, as you could with Imperiex probes, but there was definitely no explicit or implicit amp.

I wouldn't say there wasn't the slightest suggestion...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I wouldn't say there wasn't the slightest suggestion...

Looking for that. Good find. That's the only reference correct?

That I know of.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Looking for that. Good find. That's the only reference correct?

No.

Amped. As I said undeniable.

Originally posted by Delta1938
No.

👍. Which goes to my previous statement about how powerful Isis was.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Even if he was amped. Isis has never shown to be his equal or anywhere near it. Granted she's superhuman but her powere came from that Amulet. Im curious how powerful some users rate her when she has no feats

Originally posted by Sin I AM
👍. Which goes to my previous statement about how powerful Isis was.

IIRC her brother power sharing with Adam damn near one-shot her.....by accident. So yeah, she was physically inferior to even a half-powered Black Adam. COUNTDOWN had Mary in awe of her power over nature, nothing mentioned of physical. Adam using her power didn't do anything impressive in his limited series after(though I can't remember whether the spell being effected by her body being incomplete effected the potency of the power from her or just how long his "charge" lasted). Black Adam would have been a bit stronger in WWIII, but all the narrative emphasis on his rage makes it pretty clear his performance was much more about that than the modest at best stat boost he'd get from Isis.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Amped. As I said undeniable.

The D.C.ers are still denying he was amped in 2017? This was settled years ago on multiple battle board cites. It's like the posters here are infected with the same virus.

Originally posted by Delta1938
IIRC her brother power sharing with Adam damn near one-shot her.....by accident. So yeah, she was physically inferior to even a half-powered Black Adam. COUNTDOWN had Mary in awe of her power over nature, nothing mentioned of physical. Adam using her power didn't do anything impressive in his limited series after(though I can't remember whether the spell being effected by her body being incomplete effected the potency of the power from her or just how long his "charge" lasted). Black Adam would have been a bit stronger in WWIII, but all the narrative emphasis on his rage makes it pretty clear his performance was much more about that than the modest at best stat boost he'd get from Isis.

So he was amped, thanks.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
The D.C.ers are still denying he was amped in 2017? This was settled years ago on multiple battle board cites. It's like the posters here are infected with the same virus.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
So he was amped, thanks.

You proved you need others to make your arguments for you, thanks, son. 👆

Originally posted by Delta1938
IIRC her brother power sharing with Adam damn near one-shot her.....by accident. So yeah, she was physically inferior to even a half-powered Black Adam. COUNTDOWN had Mary in awe of her power over nature, nothing mentioned of physical. Adam using her power didn't do anything impressive in his limited series after(though I can't remember whether the spell being effected by her body being incomplete effected the potency of the power from her or just how long his "charge" lasted). Black Adam would have been a bit stronger in WWIII, but all the narrative emphasis on his rage makes it pretty clear his performance was much more about that than the modest at best stat boost he'd get from Isis.

Good post. She never really seemed powerful. And when she went crazy after her resurrection he only notable feat was killing/draining a group of humans. But im not sure if thats from faust corruption or something to do with adams powers

Originally posted by Delta1938
No.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I wouldn't say there wasn't the slightest suggestion...

Already covered this;

Originally posted by Juntai

False. Show me the scan in ww3 where it says he was amped.
It would be a curious thing not to mention through an entire event.

Sivana said in passing once in 52 that he was powered by seven gods. No one else said it, it was never referenced, or narrated or shown that he was amped in any way. And when Isis died, her power was not transferred to him. It was in her amulet. Which he used, alongside her power word during the Dark Ages storyline, which he didn't have in in WW3, and even so, her power was so miniscule next to his, that it ran out of power powering his form for a short time.

We chalk this up to error. He wasn't suddenly exclaiming extra gods lending him power. He wouldn't even know something like that.

So if you have any actual proof of an amp that happened; show it.

There was no amp. Not visibly, not mentioned, no narration, he recieved and used none of her abilities, nothing.

A random writing oversight.

Originally posted by Juntai
Mary Marvel receives Black Adam's powers after Isis was successfully revived, just to highlight how wrong she is in this scan. Countdown was a mess.
This was all long after WW3.

Where was Isis revived?