Originally posted by Delta1938In Black Adam Dark Age.
Where was Isis revived?
The Mary Marvel being powerless and then granted Adam's power is after this chronologically in Countdown, as it takes place after Adam regains his power in Dark Age even though the two titles were coming out at the same time.
So we have a Sivana randomly saying seven instead of six back in 52.
And that's it.
No proof, nothing visible happening, no transference, no extra power or powers displayed, no narration, not a single reference through the WW3 event. Nothing. Only that he was an angry god.
Pretty crazy considering it was a couple issues of 52 and an entire Miniseries, and none of this is anywhere.
Literally nothing that says or shows he was amped.
Originally posted by Juntai
In Black Adam Dark Age.
First Faust tried to res her, and the bones crumbled, but it turned out to be Dibney instead, and then later ressurected her and leaves with her.The Mary Marvel being powerless and then granted Adam's power is after this chronologically in Countdown, as it takes place after Adam regains his power in Dark Age even though the two titles were coming out at the same time.
I thought the first time faust revived her it was a ruse to trick adam? Then once adam was gone he revived her perfectly albeit under his control. She was that way for months before being freed. Then she went on a rampage drawing out the JSA. Shazam came back depowered both along with the batsons and turned em to stone
Originally posted by Sin I AM
I thought the first time faust revived her it was a ruse to trick adam? Then once adam was gone he revived her perfectly albeit under his control.
Yep. I just didn't need to go into all that detail to say Faust ressed her and left with her.
Point is, Adam has his power back and Isis was alive before Mary's random narration. Isis was alive already, and Mary had the bestowed power all the way through Final Crisis.
Originally posted by Delta1938
You proved you need others to make your arguments for you, thanks, son. 👆
You proved you are more fanboy than you are rocket scientist. The denial you and your ilk engage in is priceless. Like I said, there is no question he was amped and anyone arguing that he wasn't at this point is a fool.
Originally posted by Juntai
Yep. I just didn't need to go into all that detail to say Faust ressed her and left with her.
Point is, Adam has his power back and Isis was alive before Mary's random narration. Isis was alive already, and Mary had the bestowed power all the way through Final Crisis.
No argument here. I didn't believe he was amped either. The narration simply suggested he was mad. Sorta like the whole WWH arc. Its not even a knock on the character considered what he was shown capable of
Originally posted by Juntai
In Black Adam Dark Age.
First Faust tried to res her, and the bones crumbled, but it turned out to be Dibney instead, and then later ressurected her and leaves with her.The Mary Marvel being powerless and then granted Adam's power is after this chronologically in Countdown, as it takes place after Adam regains his power in Dark Age even though the two titles were coming out at the same time.
Originally posted by Juntai
So we have a Sivana randomly saying seven instead of six back in 52.
And that's it.No proof, nothing visible happening, no transference, no extra power or powers displayed, no narration, not a single reference through the WW3 event. Nothing. Only that he was an angry god.
Pretty crazy considering it was a couple issues of 52 and an entire Miniseries, and none of this is anywhere.Literally nothing that says or shows he was amped.
Like it or not, we have it being stated Black Adam has 7 gods stated, and in COUNTDOWN confirms Black Adam got Isis' power(and gave to Mary as well as his own). Whether it was a retcon or the previous writers wrote it that way but didn't make it clear, they made clear reference in COUNTDOWN, not something random and vague. Didn't make much of a difference? Sure. She didn't show to be all that strong. He never had them? Canon says otherwise.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
You proved you are more fanboy than you are rocket scientist. The denial you and your ilk engage in is priceless. Like I said, there is no question he was amped and anyone arguing that he wasn't at this point is a fool.
Look, son. You don't have a place to call anybody a fanboy. Not only are you a massive Marvel fanboy, but you've openly declared your hate for DC. So you don't just wank your preferred company, you hate the others. For no apparent reason other than you can't stand they threaten your precious Marvel(after all, you don't read DC, so you have no legitimate reason to hate them). I don't hate Marvel. So it's just 😆 precious that you're trying to act like I'm the clueless one. Plus, I guess you haven't actually paid attention in this thread? I'm not the one proving to be a fool, here.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Well, you might not care, but who cares if you don't care? Black Adam was amped is a true statement that doesn't have to meet your approval.
Do continue to ride the coattails of others. You brag as if you've won anything because of what other people have argued. You've proven my point, yet again.
Originally posted by Cogito
lol, who cares if Teth had Isis' power? Her power comes from him. It's not an amp, it's just him.
Adam only shared his power with her brother. She got her power from a different source. She had powers Adam didn't have. She still came off as a fair deal physically inferior to even half of Adam's power, though. So it wouldn't have been much in the stat department for Adam to get.
Originally posted by Delta1938Problem is, there is no proof of an amp of any kind. As I said, it would be a curious thing to leave out of an entire event where he's bashing everyone in visual verificiation, narration, or anything. Not only was there no amp in his own abilities stated, but he showed no weather manipulation, no plant manipulation, no healing abilities. It was a pretty low showing for his durability as well, and offensively wasn't really an outlier, he was just angry and ready to die that day.
Like it or not, we have it being stated Black Adam has 7 gods stated, and in COUNTDOWN confirms Black Adam got Isis' power(and gave to Mary as well as his own). Whether it was a retcon or the previous writers wrote it that way but didn't make it clear, they made clear reference in COUNTDOWN, not something random and vague. Didn't make much of a difference? Sure. She didn't show to be all that strong. He never had them? Canon says otherwise.
Mary Marvel's bubble is from COUNTDOWN, and takes place after Isis was revived and enslaved by Faust.
Not to mention that when Isis came back to life he never gave any power back to her. So if you want to believe Countdown's nonsense, which was full of errors where they connect to all the minis, mind you, then Mary is still feeling Isis' power after Isis has returned.
So you either believe he was never amped.
Or you believe he was, and never lost it, and that it wasn't much of one since the performance wasn't really an outlier anyway, considering how many times he's crashed teams without being in this kill them all **** the world mindstate.
Problem is, Dark Age was released after, but takes places chronologically before the Mary issue, since he otherwise didn't have his power back yet. So if anything, Dark Age is the retcon.
And then Mary carries her powers all the way to through Final Crisis.
And Adam never gave any power to Isis, as she was revived without him by Faust and kept, but we learned about this story in Faces of Evil, also afterwards, and linking to Dark Age as the true history.
It boils down to this, you either believe there was no amp, since there was no mention of it, no visualization, nothing.
Or you believe there was, but it was insignificant based on his many performances, and that this non-existent amp simply became his new state for the rest of the Post-Crisis-New-52 Era, since he never relinquished the power.
The result is largely the same to me.
Originally posted by Juntai
Problem is, there is no proof of an amp of any kind. As I said, it would be a curious thing to leave out of an entire event where he's bashing everyone in visual verificiation, narration, or anything. Not only was there no amp in his own abilities stated, but he showed no weather manipulation, no plant manipulation, no healing abilities. It was a pretty low showing for his durability as well, and offensively wasn't really an outlier, he was just angry and ready to die that day.Mary Marvel's bubble is from COUNTDOWN, and takes place after Isis was revived and enslaved by Faust.
Not to mention that when Isis came back to life he never gave any power back to her. So if you want to believe Countdown's nonsense, which was full of errors where they connect to all the minis, mind you, then Mary is still feeling Isis' power after Isis has returned.
So you either believe he was never amped.
Or you believe he was, and never lost it, and that it wasn't much of one since the performance wasn't really an outlier anyway, considering how many times he's crashed teams without being in this kill them all **** the world mindstate.
So you say there's nothing to support it, and then when there is indeed examples to support it, you say they don't count. Regardless of what you like, those examples exist and are canon. If we disregard anything that doesn't make sense to the prior canon, there's a ****load of comics that would be ignored. It was pretty clear what was shown in COUNTDOWN. I really don't give a **** if you accept it or not.
Originally posted by Delta1938There was no mention of an amp of any kind.
So you say there's nothing to support it, and then when there is indeed examples to support it, you say they don't count. Regardless of what you like, those examples exist and are canon. If we disregard anything that doesn't make sense to the prior canon, there's a ****load of comics that would be ignored. It was pretty clear what was shown in COUNTDOWN. I really don't give a **** if you accept it or not.
Mary's comment is retconned by both Dark Age and Faces of Evil.
Furthermore, if you did believe he was amped, he never gave it up, as he never re-empowered Isis. And Isis' power was in her amulet, as it was originally also, as Faust used it to bring her back to life.
And Mary's inner dialogue takes place AFTER her ressurection, so you would be supporting that he still had this amp after ISIS was ressurected by using the Isis power in the Isis amulet.
So you either believe Adam is just that strong. Or you believe Adam is just that strong.
It makes little difference to me.