Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
It's funny how someone can read something and ignore everything that's said in the comic... Shaggyman is a JL team buster. It was stated in the exact Aquaman comic. So if anyone actually read it or attempted to, but for some reason can't read. It was mentioned he Strikes harder than Superman and adapts to every attack.Aquaman stabbed him with his trident something characters like Rao or Graves would of died from another Team buster pair and Shaggyman just casually tossed it aside. Aquaman rocked Shaggyman a couple times but given his nature beating him was impossible.
This argument comes down to the inability to understand Aquaman has more fights outside Manta, which has context btw. This got stupid really fast and became " Manta, Manta Manta" ignoring Herc, Manhunter, Wonder Woman, Atlan and Ocean Master. As well as the several giants Aquaman has fought.
I'm not sure that you get it. I don't think that anyone is saying that any one particular opponent in this thread is more powerful or is as powerful as Arthur. Most seem to be saying that he would be vulnerable to many of their attacks because let's face the light, Arthur isn't exactly the Juggernaut, which is why he loses here, and not because he's weaker than they are.
Originally posted by Stoic
I'm not sure that you get it. I don't think that anyone is saying that any one particular opponent in this thread is more powerful or is as powerful as Arthur. Most seem to be saying that he would be vulnerable to many of their attacks because let's face the light, Arthur isn't exactly the Juggernaut, which is why he loses here, and not because he's weaker than they are.
I'm pretty sure the one Harry Potter user is.. Why else bring up physicals in regards to Manta or Catman..
Physically he's more imposing than anyone on this team is all I'm saying. In every physical attribute.
Regardless I'm curious to why they win. And what tendrils are capable of.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
That the one.
I didn't remember the bouncing part, but when I went back and looked, yeah, right you were:
TBH I don't like the idea of Aquaman seeming like he "needs" armour. It serves no real purpose imo, as he should be more than durable enough without it. Like when they made Superman's new 52 costume indestructible.
I was thinking of that Iron Man webbing feat too, though I didn't reference it specifically.
Also, since PR got me on an Electro hunt...
His infamous prison break scene, where he shuts down the Raft and goes on a rampage:
http://imgur.com/a/kDIVp
That electricity shield can block bullets, btw. I couldn't find an instance of it, though. I'm not about to scan through my ASMs, so I'm limited to what I can dig up on the web.
He also has some magnetic telekinetic abilities by utilizing the EM spectrum:
http://imgur.com/a/n5Dlo
That whole scene was badass for him. Really took him a step up as a threat.
And here's a fight with Firestar and another dude (Gravity?) that seems more than passingly impressive:
http://i.imgur.com/mUYPEAz.jpg
http://imgur.com/a/hSE9q
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I won't turn this into an Electro respect thread. But he deserves a lot of consideration as a threat here.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I'm pretty sure the one Harry Potter user is.. Why else bring up physicals in regards to Manta or Catman..Physically he's more imposing than anyone on this team is all I'm saying. In every physical attribute.
Regardless I'm curious to why they win. And what tendrils are capable of.
The symbiotes could use their tendrils to bore into his brain through his ears, eyes, or mouth. He isn't invulnerable, or unbeatable. Heck, Doc Ock beat the Hulk by exploiting the idea that he would be unable to move if he were held helplessly in mid air while he battered the crap out of him with adamantium tentacles. Arthur can't fly either. If the team works together, they would overcome him eventually.
Originally posted by EcstaticGraceBlack Manta is a Spiderman rogue gallery level villain that constantly and under multiple writers hurts Arthur, and is constantly able to keep up with him in combat. The fact that you keep crying how it shouldn't count because he bullrushed and grappled with Wonder Woman shows your serious lack of understanding as far as comics go.
I'm pretty sure the one Harry Potter user is.. Why else bring up physicals in regards to Manta or Catman..Physically he's more imposing than anyone on this team is all I'm saying. In every physical attribute.
Nobody is disputing the fact that Aquaman is the strongest on the field. What you seem to be missing is that his combat performances aren't as great as you desperately wish them to be. And it's not soley strength that matters in this fight.
Originally posted by EcstaticGracelol@ Aquaman being faster in combat than Spider-Man.
Physically he's more imposing than anyone on this team is all I'm saying. In every physical attribute.
It's time to wake up, Dorothy.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I personally don't mind as long as the armor actually functions as armor. Most writers/artist like showing battle torn suits though which doesn't always work with what's suppose to be "armor"I'd argue his "armor" has had little to no function of being armor ever since it was stated as such.
I would too, but I don't like the ambiguity it causes.
Though it's not nearly as bad as the disparity between blunt and sharp durability.
Originally posted by Digi
I was thinking of that Iron Man webbing feat too, though I didn't reference it specifically.Also, since PR got me on an Electro hunt...
His infamous prison break scene, where he shuts down the Raft and goes on a rampage:
http://imgur.com/a/kDIVp
That electricity shield can block bullets, btw. I couldn't find an instance of it, though. I'm not about to scan through my ASMs, so I'm limited to what I can dig up on the web.He also has some magnetic telekinetic abilities by utilizing the EM spectrum:
http://imgur.com/a/n5Dlo
That whole scene was badass for him. Really took him a step up as a threat.And here's a fight with Firestar and another dude (Gravity?) that seems more than passingly impressive:
http://i.imgur.com/mUYPEAz.jpg
http://imgur.com/a/hSE9q...
I won't turn this into an Electro respect thread. But he deserves a lot of consideration as a threat here.
That from New Avengers? The raft one. It looks familiar.
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Philo, you can argue without being a dick. I know you can.
Originally posted by Stoic
The symbiotes could use their tendrils to bore into his brain through his ears, eyes, or mouth. He isn't invulnerable, or unbeatable. Heck, Doc Ock beat the Hulk by exploiting the idea that he would be unable to move if he were held helplessly in mid aid while he battered the crap out of him with adamantium tentacles. Arthur can't fly either. If the team works together, they would overcome him eventually.
I won't deny stuff like that would give the team the win. If they rely on hax like stuff rather than a brawl which is what I assumed meant.
The electro thing sounded quite sure of a win to with frying his brain or something like thing by targeting his electrical synapses. Scans would be nice.
As you can see though Philosphia honestly thinks... they physically stand a chance..
Originally posted by -Pr-Aquaman's blunt durability is consistently very good.
Though it's not nearly as bad as the disparity between blunt and sharp durability.
His bullet/stabbing ones, not so much. He has been impaled quite a bit just in the last few years. Which is awful, when going off against the symbiotes.
Originally posted by -Pr-
I would too, but I don't like the ambiguity it causes.Though it's not nearly as bad as the disparity between blunt and sharp durability.
That from New Avengers? The raft one. It looks familiar.
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Philo, you can argue without being a dick. I know you can.
I honestly don't mind the piercing weakness, I don't like what Abnett is doing with it. I feel like he nerfed Aquaman in comparison to what the past 3 writers had him at. But most warrior characters in comics tend to seem to have some weakness to piercing attacks. Thor, Wonder Woman, Namor, Black Bolt. Maybe not all bullets but weapons have cut them on a consistent basis.
Philo seems to be the reason Dora pointed out things for the viewers and they got highlighted.
I don't get how you read something and skip over context.. unless your looking at the pictures and not reading it.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
As you can see though Philosphia honestly thinks... they physically stand a chance..
Originally posted by Philosopia
Nobody is disputing the fact that Aquaman is the strongest on the field.
If your assertion is that Aquaman is the strongest on the field, you're correct.
If your assertion is that Aquaman is the fastest, you'll get stomped in the ground.
If your assertion is that Aquaman can't be hurt by the opponents, you'll get stomped in the ground.
Choose your position carefully 🙂
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Philo seems to be the reason Dora pointed out things for the viewers and they got highlighted.I don't get how you read something and skip over context.. unless your looking at the pictures and not reading it.
Don't go crying now, or I might just have to run you off the forum.
Originally posted by Philosophía
Aquaman's blunt durability is consistently very good.His bullet/stabbing ones, not so much. He has been impaled quite a bit just in the last few years. Which is awful, when going off against the symbiotes.
So we... Agree, then?
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I honestly don't mind the piercing weakness, I don't like what Abnett is doing with it. I feel like he nerfed Aquaman in comparison to what the past 3 writers had him at. But most warrior characters in comics tend to seem to have some weakness to piercing attacks. Thor, Wonder Woman, Namor, Black Bolt. Maybe not all bullets but weapons have cut them on a consistent basis.Philo seems to be the reason Dora pointed out things for the viewers and they got highlighted.
I don't get how you read something and skip over context.. unless your looking at the pictures and not reading it.
And to think, Abnett used to be really good on Aquaman's book back in the day.
I hope you can be nice too. I don't want to close this thread.
Originally posted by EcstaticGraceWell, if it was only you, I'd have said they put an IQ filter, but it seems Pr and others can reply, so that doesn't seem to be it.
I'm going to be ran off a site, from someone who doesn't allow you to reply to them...
"Ok"..
I think the site's code just went to hell.
