Beniboybling
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Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Stop lying. I never said they just started fighting, I said Kenobi just started going all out.
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
If you can't see the difference between disarming someone after a prolonged fight and disarming someone straight away with 2 moves from start to finish then idk what to say to you.
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Disarming someone 2 moves after start is a stomp, however you try to spin it.
Not lying about anything darling. The spin your attempting to put on this fight is clear, and not once have you acknowledged Ventress had been fighting Kenobi for a prolonged period.
So let me get this straigh. You are trying to convince me that Ventress is in Kenobi's tier by saying when Kenobi held back and used a passive form, as well as Ventress using a very energy efficient form Kenobi could still tire her out enough in a span of a few minutes to have her in stomp range? Phenomenal job 😂Besdies it's wrong. She actually fought harder than before:
She was utterly crushed at that moment, but she'd been crushed before many, many times, and the only way she knew to deal with that was to get up and start fighting again, and harder. "I don't give up easily. And I always have a plan."
Oh dear, what a shoddy attempt at strawman. I didn't say anything about Ventress being in Kenobi's tier. Debate that in your own time, this is about whether or not Kenobi stomped Ventress, to which whether they exist in the same tier is not relevant.
And as far as energy efficiency is concerned, that has to be drawn into question considering how much more aggressive Ventress' "ferocious fighting style" is compared to standard Makashi practitioners, and the fact that she was pushing an angry offensive the entire time. And I'm afraid Ventress giving herself a private pep talk talk doesn't prove anything at all in that regard, kek.
In fact according to the novelisation, by the time Kenobi had disarmed her it appeared she cracked several ribs. Who knew?
You also argue that Kenobi was employing a passive form but that only lends itself to my point. This indeed is standard Soresu practice, allow your opponent to wear themselves down (as well as become increasingly frustrated against your offense), before exploiting an opening when they get sloppy.
The fact that Ventress has been disarmed by the likes of Koon and Anakin in the past, and only after relatively short bouts, yet remained able to continue fighting effectively afterwards only indicating that she leaves herself sloppily susceptible to disarmament in general (or that her manner of fighting isn't energy efficient at all), which would only be accentuated by the factors we are discussing.
Also a dying Kenobi stalemating Ventress is replicate enough for me.
Well that's awfully vague, are you referring to their fight on Zule? Because if so that didn't happen. 🙁
On the other hand, no, Ventress' duels on Christophsis and indeed Kamino absolutely refute the idea that Kenobi could repeat this performance.
Actually I've been wrong about this. Ventress could and did recover her lightsaber yet still didn't dare to take on Kenobi, even tho a few seconds ago she was ready to kill him.
In the novel so it would seem, but then in the novel a Vulture droid just happens to pass by and she chooses to jump on it. So it would appear she was just being opportunistic, if that hadn't been the case, would she have continued fighting? And in the end did she flee because she felt she stood no chance, or was altering Dooku simply more urgent? Who knows. Try not to jump to baseless conclusions.