List of duelists who can break Kenobi's defense

Started by cs_zoltan6 pages

As I see the OP asks who can brute force their way past Kenobi's defense. Those that I listed are not better enough for that, or straight up not better at all than Kenobi so they can't do that.

Kys @guys that mentioned Malgus but not Vader.

I'm not sure if Vader could tbh. Obi-Wan may just be too big of a psychological hurdle for him.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
As I see the OP asks who can brute force their way past Kenobi's defense. Those that I listed are not better enough for that, or straight up not better at all than Kenobi so they can't do that.

In this interpretation of the thread I can more easily see why you'd think some characters in my list would lose.

However, Dooku, Kun and Mace are undoubtedly above him in the sabers department, and Maul is roughly his equal. So, at least those 4 would be able to do what the OP asks.

Originally posted by Petrus
Kun [is] undoubtedly above him in the sabers department

Eh...

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Eh...

He is. Not by much, tho.

Originally posted by Petrus
In this interpretation of the thread I can more easily see why you'd think some characters in my list would lose.

However, Dooku, Kun and Mace are undoubtedly above him in the sabers department, and Maul is roughly his equal. So, at least those 4 would be able to do what the OP asks.

Maul and Dooku already failed at that lmao.

Based on what is Kun "undoubtely" above Kenobi?

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Maul and Dooku already failed at that lmao.

Wut?

Kenobi never manages to defeat Dooku, whereas Dooku has defeat him more than once, lmao.

And Maul is roughly on par with Kenobi. So how exactly did they fail?

Dooku failed to break RotS Kenobi's defense, fact. Maul failed to break even TCW Kenobi's defense without Dun Moch, fact. Get your head out of your ass phag.

Dooku fought Kenobi for a total of 10 seconds in RotS, before he easily defeated him while knocking Anakin on his ass.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Dooku failed to break RotS Kenobi's defense, fact.

Literally breaks RotS Kenobi's defense and proceeds to TK him.

Maul failed to break even TCW Kenobi's defense without Dun Moch, fact. Get your head out of your ass phag.

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And Maul obviously never faced RotS Kenobi, but based on his Rebels showings, he'd still be capable of doing it.

You do realize every gif you posted was Kenobi attacking, right? Gillard has already stated that Kenobi's own aggression is his weakness.

This thread is on Kenobi's defensive capabilities.

Originally posted by Petrus
Dooku, Kun and Mace are undoubtedly above him in the sabers department

rofl

Originally posted by Petrus

Literally breaks RotS Kenobi's defense and proceeds to TK him.

😐

And Maul obviously never faced RotS Kenobi, but based on his Rebels showings, he'd still be capable of doing it.

Are you illiterate? This thread is about breaking Kenobi's defense LIKE GRIEVOUS aka WITH A LIGHTSABER. NOT WITH THE FORCE AND NOT WITH KICKS. AND NOT WITH DUN MOCH.

Read it thoroughly this time phag.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You do realize every gif you posted was Kenobi attacking, right? Gillard has already stated that Kenobi's own aggression is his weakness.

This thread is on Kenobi's defensive capabilities.

Well, he was attacking, but Dooku broke off his attack with his lightsaber, not the Force. I assume that anyone who's good enough to win a lightsaber duel against him is good enough to break his defenses.

Are you asking which duelist beats Kenobi if he's entirely on the defensive and never/almost never attempts to attack? That's not even plausible or realistic in a SW duel. At least not if the opponent isn't stupid or GG, seeing GG's unorthodox fighting style.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
rofl

You think Kenobi would defeat those guys in a duel? Lmao.

I'd maybe give you Kun, but Mace and Dooku? Nah.

Given mace and Dooku are on par, what makes y'all think the former can break through Kenobi ?

WTF is malgus being mentioned here. Malgus has nothing putting him above kenobi speed wise(or putting him on par for that matter) and strength wise even a physically stronger anh vader couldn't break the guard of a physically out of shape ben kenobi.

What has mace done suggesting he's anywhere close to srong enough or fast enough to break kenobi's guard purely through strength or speed? Heck, whether he's stronger at all is debatable in itself.

Also maul? Given that he and his brother simulatneously couldn't do it, that maul couldn't do it individually despite kenobi being physically wrecked beforehand, why would maul suddenly be able to overwhelm via strength or speed a superior rots kenobi.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Why would mace do better vs kenobi's defenses than anakin?

Not saying he can although I guess I implied it.

I remember there being a quote that Vaapad could break the defenses of a Soresu master although it was vague.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
WTF is malgus being mentioned here. Malgus has nothing putting him above kenobi speed wise(or putting him on par for that matter) and strength wise even a physically stronger anh vader couldn't break the guard of a physically out of shape ben kenobi.

What has mace done suggesting he's anywhere close to srong enough or fast enough to break kenobi's guard purely through strength or speed? Heck, whether he's stronger at all is debatable in itself.

Also maul? Given that he and his brother simulatneously couldn't do it, that maul couldn't do it individually despite kenobi being physically wrecked beforehand, why would maul suddenly be able to overwhelm via strength or speed a superior rots kenobi.

To be fair ANH Vader was being extremely cautious.

The Malgus mention reminds me of when Antoine's collaboration with Jensaaurai was ruined by the Malgus bias.

Idk.

Maul and Savage were arguably hindered by the narrow hallway and Kenobi had a second blade. But yeah I don't see SOD Maul powering through ROTS Kenobi in sabers.