Originally posted by JBL
Totally false. AII heroes get powerful enough to beat the threat at hand. It's call " hero time to win and please the fans"
Thing is Superman probably has the most extensive description of how his power fluctuates when compared to other heroes. They just can't be ignored.
Originally posted by kevdudeFalse. You think superman dropped mental blocks or did he start going for the kill like doomsday was. He had to put everything he had left into that final blow. That alone tells you he wasn't getting any stronger. Get it? Everything he had left means the tank was running dry and there was NOTHING being added. Oh.. say like... Strength. Get it now?
Wait a minute, Superman and Doomsday wasn't getting more powerful as the story went on in DOS? Either they was or, under your comprehension of the story, Superman would have had to stay the same and Doomsday would have had to start getting weaker so Superman could take him down, that's backwards!!! 😑
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Did he put everything he had left into those previous attacks? (No)... That final all out blow was enough. Becausesssss??? Bingo!! It had everything he had left in it.
So the last dregs of an empty tank could do what all his previous attacks couldn't?That's like breaking the 100m world record, at the end of a triathlon.
Originally posted by JBL
Did he put everything he had left into those previous attacks? (No)... That final all out blow was enough. Becausesssss??? Bingo!! It had everything he had left in it.
So if I don't give it my all in the triathlon (but still complete it), you're saying I can smash my PB in a 100m by using the last dregs of my energy?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Stop making excuses. Supermans final blow was the most powerful blow he had left and it was enough. Get it. He put EVERYTHING he had left into it. A FINAL blow.. the last strike, if this doesn't do it I'm done strike, etc???.. Guess why??? He knew he was not going to have anything left. No more strength or anything else. Running dry. No more gas ( strength) coming in, all being used up. Before I run out I better put EVERYTHING I have left into one ALL OUT strike to try and end this? Good story that book was.
So if I don't give it my all in the triathlon (but still complete it), you're saying I can smash my PB in a 100m by using the last dregs of my energy?
Originally posted by Galan007
As we've seen on numerous occasions over the years: Superman's powers can(and often do) increase astronomically in the midst of battle. ie. when he removes his mental blocks and becomes angry/enraged/bloodlusted, his power grows by proxy. Moreover, when he becomes angry/enraged/bloodlusted, his cells naturally start absorbing and metabolizing more solar radiation than normal, which also boosts his power by proxy.Any way you cut it, Superman's powers undeniably increase in-battle(the method by which this occurs notwithstanding.) Now does that mean he possesses 'true' dynamic strength in the same way a character like Hulk does? While some instances would allude to yes, more often than not Superman gains this added power when he stops holding back and taps into his energy reserves. So in most cases I would not equate his increases in power to dynamic strength in the typical sense.
The thing about Superman's 'reserves', however, is that they are, for all intents and purposes, unbounded. As his entire character history supports: the guy simply becomes as powerful as he needs to be in order to defeat the threat at hand(no matter how powerful.)
Take from that what you will. g007_sneaky
Originally posted by JBL
You saw his limit. HE DIED didn't he???
So EVERY high end feat he has EVER done, was him NOT at his limit.
So take whatever high end limit abhi likes. Restarting the big bang or whatever. Pushing XYZ. Lifting ABC. All those....were not done at his limit as he didn't die.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes, now we just need to know what his full power is. What is his limit.As he hasn't hit that limit with anyone else, does that mean we take his highest of highs, and extrapolate upwards?
Well, extrapolations wouldn't get us nowhere, since at his highs he has has lifted infinity, plowed through time stop, tanked the bleed/blackholes etc. The only consistent limit he seems to have is "slightly slower than Flash" - and Flash is basically limitless, so that's no good.
As for battles, his powers 'surging' with his emotions has been played repeatedly, I believe the Ruin scan has already been posted. He had the same power surge against Mongul, once he got emotional enough:
Superman regulating his powerlevel, both on a conscious and subconscious level, is quite consistent throughout his history. On top of that, he also has the "absorb more solar radiation when your emotions are fluctuating"; as a consequence, I believe he has literally all the levels of holding back one can have.