Originally posted by ghostman
carver, where is it stated that planet vegeta is larger and more dense than earth?
Originally posted by darthgoober
Well it has 10x Earth's gravity, and for that too happen a planet would need to be larger and more dense than Earth by a fair amount. From what I understand there's lot of natural, inherent differences between DBZ universe our universe. Unless I'm mistaken, DBZ's Earth is supposed to be quite a bit larger than our Earth and everyone lives on a massive Pangaea.
The entire universe only extends about the length of Snake Way though. A million kilometers or so.
The Dragon Ball universe is clearly a microverse, and assuming everything scales, the characters themselves would be the size of atoms next to Superman.
Originally posted by cdtm
The entire universe only extends about the length of Snake Way though. A million kilometers or so.The Dragon Ball universe is clearly a microverse, and assuming everything scales, the characters themselves would be the size of atoms next to Superman.
Stop lying. You know this has been debunked. I'm surprised Galan isnt warning you for this.
Originally posted by carver9
Stop lying. You know this has been debunked. I'm surprised Galan isnt warning you for this.
Except it hasn't been. There's nothing that says Snake Way is any longer then it is, or debunks that it extends along the universe, as per the original map.
Multiple galaxies means little, if they're micro sized galaxies (As they'd have to be, to match with Snake Way's dimensions.)
Originally posted by cdtm
Except it hasn't been. There's nothing that says Snake Way is any longer then it is, or debunks that it extends along the universe, as per the original map.Multiple galaxies means little, if they're micro sized galaxies (As they'd have to be, to match with Snake Way's dimensions.)
How big is snakeway? Then when you think about that, relook at this.
Again, please stop trolling.
Originally posted by carver9
How big is snakeway? Then when you think about that, relook at this.Again, please stop trolling.
Either a million kilometers long, or 10,000 miles, depending on dub.
Video proves nothing at all.
Originally posted by carver9
Remember, the guide that you're using said that DB universe only have 4 Galaxies. How many do you see there?
Again, this proves nothing about Snake Ways size. Which we've seen extends across the universe.
One retcon does not throw out everything, that isn't how retcons work.
Originally posted by cdtm
Again, this proves nothing about Snake Ways size. Which we've seen extends across the universe.One retcon does not throw out everything, that isn't how retcons work.
Again, the guide that you are using had snakeway circling a universe that only had 4 Galaxies. I need you to tell me if you see more than 4 Galaxies in the clip I posted.
Originally posted by cdtmGood point. The entirety of a Dragon Ball universe is smaller than the distance from Earth to the nearest planet.
The entire universe only extends about the length of Snake Way though. A million kilometers or so.The Dragon Ball universe is clearly a microverse, and assuming everything scales, the characters themselves would be the size of atoms next to Superman.
Originally posted by Galan007
The original DB universe only consisted of 4 galaxies... But per the most recent information in DBS, there are "countless" galaxies in the DB universe that are similar to the Milky Way(which is about 100,000 light years in diameter):So yeah, the cosmology of old was massively retconned.
Oh, I'm not disputing that much. I personally think Toriyama meant "space.sectors", like the Green Lantern cosmology, where one sector has multiple galaxies, inhabitable systems, planets and such.
Now, as to whether Dragon Ball scales to the real world... Facetious ribbing aside, Snake Way does stand out as kind of an anomaly.
It goes by heaven, hell, and Kaio's world, yet is only a million kilometers long? Is heaven and hell still set in the same spots on the old.map? Or, does the new map explain where Snake Way, Heaven, Hell, and everything else are laid out?
Originally posted by Galan007
The original DB universe only consisted of 4 galaxies... But per the most recent information in DBS, there are "countless" galaxies in the DB universe that are similar to the Milky Way(which is about 100,000 light years in diameter):So yeah, the cosmology of old was massively retconned.
I thought the '4 galaxy' thing was just an administrative term?
Originally posted by cdtm
Oh, I'm not disputing that much. I personally think Toriyama meant "space.sectors", like the Green Lantern cosmology, where one sector has multiple galaxies, inhabitable systems, planets and such.Now, as to whether Dragon Ball scales to the real world... Facetious ribbing aside, Snake Way does stand out as kind of an anomaly.
It goes by heaven, hell, and Kaio's world, yet is only a million kilometers long? Is heaven and hell still set in the same spots on the old.map? Or, does the new map explain where Snake Way, Heaven, Hell, and everything else are laid out?
Maybe the map wasn't drawn to scale, or they may have retconned the size, iirc it was only 'rumored to be 1 million KM' long by some troll.
Originally posted by Genii96Depends which of the older sources you go by. Some of them imply there were numerous galaxies. Others imply there were only a couple.
I thought the '4 galaxy' thing was just an administrative term?
Either way, we now know...without a doubt...that the DB universe contains "countless" galaxies that are just like the Milky Way(and who knows how many others that aren't like the Milky Way.) So even IF the DBU wasn't intended to be this vast back in the day, it has been retconned accordingly as of DBS.
By all indications, it is a full scale/scope universe.