Frieza used 0.025% of his power to destroy planet Vegeta that was larger and more dense than Earth and he did it with one finger...
A Super Saiyan tanked and overpowered that same attack from a FAR more powerful Frieza while standing in one spot smiling. This is ridiculous. Things like this are considered high showings for Heralds whereas tanking attacks from moon buster isnt even an average for Saiyans. Master Roshi can destroy moons. That's Herald level sh**. Imagine if Roshi punched a Super Saiyan head off, the internet would explode because that is the lowest of lowest. Now if Zod punched through a moon and destroyed it while proceeding at caving Superman chest in, the argument here would be "the guy just destroyed a moon, Superman being knocked out by this isnt a low showing". Ultraman moving the moon not too long ago was a high showinG to you all. It was mentioned consistently. Wrecking moons are nothing in Z. Its child's play. The lowest of characters can do it. By the time DBS rolled around, they were calling planet busting weak, characters in the show and was casually one handing people that is a universal threat. Tanking black holes while at near death, no energy. Punching through dimensions, etc, etc...
Let's put it like this, Superman power would register on scouters whereas Saiyan Saga Vegeta power level blows them up. You all was hyped at Superman SUPPOSEDLY surviving a planets destruction. Frieza was near death, cut in half, had no energy whatsoever, face chopped up and he withstood a planet twice the size of Earth blowing up on him. Anyways, Goku kamehameha, the shockwaves from it would melt both Superman and Darkseid at the same time. Heat vision does not compare to what the Z fighters can generate.
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Originally posted by carver9
Frieza used 0.025% of his power to destroy planet Vegeta that was larger and more dense than Earth and he did it with one finger...A Super Saiyan tanked and overpowered that same attack from a FAR more powerful Frieza while standing in one spot smiling. This is ridiculous. Things like this are considered high showings for Heralds whereas tanking attacks from moon buster isnt even an average for Saiyans. Master Roshi can destroy moons. That's Herald level sh**. Imagine if Roshi punched a Super Saiyan head off, the internet would explode because that is the lowest of lowest. Now if Zod punched through a moon and destroyed it while proceeding at caving Superman chest in, the argument here would be "the guy just destroyed a moon, Superman being knocked out by this isnt a low showing". Ultraman moving the moon not too long ago was a high showinG to you all. It was mentioned consistently. Wrecking moons are nothing in Z. Its child's play. The lowest of characters can do it. By the time DBS rolled around, they were calling planet busting weak, characters in the show and was casually one handing people that is a universal threat. Tanking black holes while at near death, no energy. Punching through dimensions, etc, etc...
Let's put it like this, Superman power would register on scouters whereas Saiyan Saga Vegeta power level blows them up. You all was hyped at Superman SUPPOSEDLY surviving a planets destruction. Frieza was near death, cut in half, had no energy whatsoever, face chopped up and he withstood a planet twice the size of Earth blowing up on him. Anyways, Goku kamehameha, the shockwaves from it would melt both Superman and Darkseid at the same time. Heat vision does not compare to what the Z fighters can generate.
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lol, you think Heralds are impressive compared to Superman.
how... 1992 ,lol.
Post Crisis Byrne Superman -- i.e. a Superman at a tiny fraction of his later, and certainly his current levels-- was withstanding Pre-Crisis level Kryptonian all out kill attacks in the 80s, kid.
Any Z-Fighter pre-Buu saga gets evaporated by that level of power.
..and I think you forgot about the fact that the DB universe is a laughably puny excuse for a universe. It's even far smaller than Marvel puny small god realm IIRC.
Originally posted by MrMind
Master Roshi destroyed the moon with hameha at PL of 139Cell destroyed the solar system couple decades ago. I don't even wanna get into the power level of DBS since that would be so unfair to Superman
Statements are just as good as feats when dragon ball concerned, that's generally how dragon ball works. Because most supporting casts don't have that many appearances and their feats need scaling
The feat is also valid because
1. it's backed by official guides
2. DB Kai official Japanese TOEI site states he did have power to destroy the entire solar system with his Kamehameha. Kai is the closest to source material
I mean you guys have no trouble taking statements as feats when superman is concerned.
off topic:
I get that Power Level is bullshit
but in this case it makes sense
we know PL of 150 can destroy the moon
we know frieza first form with PL of 530 000 (less than 1 percent of his final form) can easily destroy planet vegeta (way bigger planet than earth)
We know that Perfect Cell is at least hundred of thousands time more powerful than first form FriezaYou'd be insane to think Cell cannot destroy solar system
..So where did he destroy a solar system, again..?
I missed that reference.
Originally posted by panthergod
lol, you think Heralds are impressive compared to Superman.how... 1992 ,lol.
Post Crisis Byrne Superman -- i.e. a Superman at a tiny fraction of his later, and certainly his current levels-- was withstanding Pre-Crisis level Kryptonian all out kill attacks in the 80s, kid.
Any Z-Fighter pre-Buu saga gets evaporated by that level of power.
..and I think you forgot about the fact that the DB universe is a laughably puny excuse for a universe. It's even far smaller than Marvel puny small god realm IIRC.
Lol... Heralds have held their own against Superman. Lol... yes, they are impressive to Superman. Superman was SHOCKED at the amount of power Billy had stored inside of him. He even admits that Bizarro is stronger than him and Bizzaro is a Herald.
Post Crisis Byrne Superman. Sigh. Let's not go there. I feel confident those Krypronians were operating at your average kryptonian levels. What's the issue number.
Nope, Black hair Goku during Saiyan Saga would rule DC Earth. Frieza during the Saiyan saga split a planet in half with two fingers while not even using a percentage of his power. Imagine if Superman would have split Earth in half with an energy attack, boo boo would fly all across your house due to excitement.
Wait a minute, you still believe DBZ universe is small? 😆
Originally posted by carver9
Lol... Heralds have held their own against Superman.
Lol... yes, they are impressive to Superman. Superman was SHOCKED at the amount of power Billy had stored inside of him. He even admits that Bizarro is stronger than him and Bizzaro is a Herald.
Post Crisis Byrne Superman. Sigh. Let's not go there. I feel confident those Krypronians were operating at your average kryptonian levels. What's the issue number.
Nope, Black hair Goku during Saiyan Saga would rule DC Earth. Frieza during the Saiyan saga split a planet in half with two fingers while not even using a percentage of his power. Imagine if Superman would have split Earth in half with an energy attack, boo boo would fly all across your house due to excitement.
Superman evaporates Earth 2 with the shockwaves of his strikes with an equal... while weakened.
He shatters planets while near powerless now.
WTF are you talking about..?
Wait a minute, you still believe DBZ universe is small? 😆
Superman's inferiors hold 52 universes.
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Originally posted by carver9
Go to the previous page, please. Stilt kindly posted it there for you.
And see my scans on the last page. I just proved how insanely powerful Supermans hv is, operating on a universal+ level.
Speaking of which, there's some interesting scans in Ownage you should see. Prime Superman was just established as being a potential multiverse buster.
Originally posted by panthergod
No he didn't.I have yet to see Cell destroying a solar system. Not saying that it didn't happen, but no one has shown it.
It's a CANON BIO that states Cell attack had enough power to blow away a solar system. Dont argue with us in regards to FACTS, dispute the person that made the CANON bio.
Originally posted by cdtm
And see my scans on the last page. I just proved how insanely powerful Supermans hv is, operating on a universal+ level.Speaking of which, there's some interesting scans in Ownage you should see. Prime Superman was just established as being a potential multiverse buster.
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I've read all of the JLA and Superman comics recently. That's all I am going to say about this.