Darth Vader vs. the Hulk

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Pretty sure plasma is hotter than fire, or works differently or something

To add to this, steel melts at 2,500 F and acetylene which is the standard fuel for cutting torches, even underwater reaches temperatures of 6,300 F, so a confirmed temperature for Human torch is over 300 times hotter than what's hot enough to cut steel like butter

Hydrogen/Qxygen mix as fuel for cutting torches is only 5072 F, more than double what's required to cut steel

I thought he generated 1 million degree heat, but only boasted about 2m?

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Yeeeah, there are loads of "energy blades" in the SW galaxy. Here are a few examples:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Velmorian_energy_sword
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/X-22_energy_blade
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vibroblade/Legends
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/X-12_energy_blade

Lightsabers, however, tend not to be so ambiguously labeled in Bios/Sourcebooks for that very reason.

Aside from that, Vader's official blueprint states his helmet and shoulder armor are made out of [b]Durasteel:

...Which sabers can effortlessly cut/slag, like a hot knife through butter(literally.) In fact, the blast doors Qui-Gon was easily cutting through in TPM(I posted the gif earlier) were made from Durasteel -- the novelization confirms this.

So like I said: no portion of Vader's suit has a special resistance to lightsabers. [/B]

That clears it up, thanks 👆

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I thought he generated 1 million degree heat, but only boasted about 2m?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
That clears it up, thanks 👆

You know I always enjoy discussing SW shit. 🤓

Originally posted by carver9
And this is where comic knowledge come into play. Hulk faced Jean (who had the force in her) and she TK lifted him in the air and he broke out with pure strength. Fought Cable who's TK was nothing to him and he fought Xman who admitted he was nothing to the Hulk and who's TK failed against him. Vader isn't doing crap to him with the force.

Wrong thread for this...sorry smurph.

None of which are force chokes - one of THE go to attacks of Vader. Scans of Hulk resisting a TK hold on his airways - does he flex his throat to break the hold? Lol. Swallow REALLY hard (which would do nothing, as airways are separate from the esophagus)? Punch himself in the throat? HOW is he fighting back against being choked?

Originally posted by h1a8
Durability isn't a factor of the light-saber. It can cut through any material in the universe except another light-saber blade or material with energy properties that can cancel out the light-saber. I've seen Deadpool cut Hulk with very durable katanas. Hulk isn't very resistant against being cut.

There was a character in the Clone Wars tv series who was able to tank a lightsaber on sheer durability if I remember correctly.

👆

It was called the Zillo Beast:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Zillo_Beast

Its armor was completely unique throughout the galaxy -- strong enough to actually tank lightsaber strikes(along with all other types of blaster fire.) Think someone already mentioned it, though.

Actually I was thinking of "The Son". Or was it his armor that was resistant?

Ah, gotcha.

'The Ones'(ie. The Father, Son, and Daughter) were literal Force-Gods that existed for eons as anchorites of the Force itself on a universal level:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Ones

As such, they were obviously immune to all types of conventional weaponry(and rightfully so.) In fact, a special dagger created by The Father was the only weapon in the universe capable of killing any of them.

There is no reason to include The Ones in a list of those who are resistant to sabers, imo. If anything, it just makes sabers look that much better if it takes Gods to block them outright.

Originally posted by Galan007
Ah, gotcha.

'The Ones'(ie. The Father, Son, and Daughter) were literal Force-Gods that existed for eons as anchorites of the Force itself on a universal level:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Ones

As such, they were obviously immune to all types of conventional weaponry(and rightfully so.) In fact, a special dagger created by The Father was the only weapon in the universe capable of killing any of them.

There is no reason to include The Ones in a list of those who are resistant to sabers, imo. If anything, it just makes sabers look that much better if it takes Gods to block them outright.

Yeah, but the term "god" is relative. They are incredibly powerful within their universe, but their feats don't really show them as operating on a universal scale.

Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah, but the term "god" is relative. They are incredibly powerful within their universe, but their feats don't really show them as operating on a universal scale.

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/shootingnova/blog/abeloth-respect-thread/96338/

Originally posted by deathslash
I'm not too sure about that. Abeloth was less powerful than the father and she still walked off the loss of several limbs and falling into lava. She was also beating on Luke even when he went into Oneness. Seriously, here's her respect thread.

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/shootingnova/blog/abeloth-respect-thread/96338/

I don't see what this has to do with them operating on universal levels of power though? Animated Superman was capable of fighting in lava, inside a volcano, for example.

Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah, but the term "god" is relative. They are incredibly powerful within their universe, but their feats don't really show them as operating on a universal scale.

Again, using The Ones as a means to gauge the limits of lightsabers *only* makes sabers look a LOT better. There are MUCH better ways to argue their limitations, imo. 😉

Huge Vader fan here, but I gotta say I dont see him able to reliably defeat The Hulk. Can he sometimes get a decapitation win (which is probably his only real way to win), sure, but not for the majority to me.

👆 in combo with a force choke to stun him, i can see it happening, but i don't see it happening very often...

Originally posted by Galan007
No worries. 👆

You know I always enjoy discussing SW shit. 🤓

What's the difference between Durasteel and regular steel ?

Hulk wrecks

Healing factor, durability, damage soak, and ever increasing strength should overwhelm the dark lord of the Sith.

Originally posted by Galan007
They served as universal anchorites of the Force -- ie. the Force of the entire universe quite literally flowed through The Ones and their realm, and then into the physical universe from there. The Son embodied the dark side, The Daughter embodied the light side, The Father embodied balance between both. That's why the balance of the Force within the physical universe affected their respective power-levels to a degree; and vice versa... Then you also have The Father saying that his children could tear the very fabric of the universe and such.

Again, using The Ones as a means to gauge the limits of lightsabers *only* makes sabers look a LOT better. There are MUCH better ways to argue their limitations, imo. 😉

And yet when it comes to durability feats they aren't above Hulk though. So if they can tank it..

Unless in Hulks history the guy has never tanked an attack similar to a lightsaber or something, in which case Hulk on KMC has been hilariously exaggerated when it comes to power levels.