Originally posted by Azronger
It applies to Jedi Ulic due to it referring to the Jedi Order as a whole, and not any particular era.Not sure what you mean. Those quotes apply to every duelist ever produced by the Jedi Order, including Ulic.
Works for me, Prime mace>Jedi Ulic, Sure, but none of this TPM mace>Jedi Ulic Confirmed business.
Ulic wasn't a Jedi when he fought Kun. Though I can't imagine he grew that much during such a short period, tbh. Indeed. thumb up
except he gained "Tremendous Powers" in the darkside and a amulet to boot..... 🙂
And every Jedi has to have had walked the halls of the Jedi Order, so it applies to Ulic. Don't be daft, Muser. smile
Literally can not think of any evidence to back up that assumption......Prove it. When the jedi all gathered together to plan how to deal with the krath they did it on ossus, not at the jedi temple. And in any case that "Jedi Ulic" would be before his battles on onderon, so at the very best (Something you can't prove as well and is never indicated) was a pre prime even as a jedi when he supposedly walked into the temple.
Wollfy, give me ya proof. Don't tell me ya skillz have deteriorated to a point where you don't even know how to quote? Or are ya just trollen me boi.
Originally posted by TheMuser
Literally can not think of any evidence to back up that assumption......Prove it. When the jedi all gathered together to plan how to deal with the krath they did it on ossus, not at the jedi temple. And in any case that "Jedi Ulic" would be before his battles on onderon, so at the very best (Something you can't prove as well and is never indicated) was a pre prime even as a jedi when he supposedly walked into the temple.Wollfy, give me ya proof. Don't tell me ya skillz have deteriorated to a point where you don't even know how to quote? Or are ya just trollen me boi.
Jesus, your trolling sucks.
But just for the hell of it, the Jedi Path notes that every Jedi was trained within the Jedi Temple first, while they were initiates:
Thus Ulic was indeed a Jedi who walked the halls of the Temple and qualifies as such until he became a Sith.
Originally posted by TheMuser
Works for me, Prime mace>Jedi Ulic, Sure, but none of this TPM mace>Jedi Ulic Confirmed business.
You do realize all those quotes are talking about Mace circa-TPM, correct? Well, the "most powerful" one is. 🙂
Originally posted by Azronger
I don't need to, since we aren't comparing them as children.Not a feat of power.
That list doesn't include Nadd, and if your "evidence" constitutes as the personal opinion Darth Nyriss, then you have nothing.
Possibly. Not sure what this has to do with Ulic Qel-Droma, though.
Factually wrong. Sorry.
You have given me no reason to dismiss the quote. You have only listed what Vitiate can do, when instead you should have been focusing on what Ulic cannot do. In the absence of a retcon, the way to disprove a quote is to prove that it contradicts the source material, and so far you have failed to do that.
The child who will come to be known as the Sith Emperor is born. Black-eyed, heartless, and supremely strong in the dark side of the Force, the boy seizes control of his homeworld by the age of 13 and earns the title Lord Vitiate. He amasses an army of Sith followers and turns his back on Imperial politics to hone his skills in the dark side.
From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia)
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The Sith Emperor, history's most powerful dark side master, performed a ritual of incredible scope to consume the life energy of every being on his homeworld.
From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia)
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he plan was both horrifying and brilliant. In addition to becoming more powerful than Meetra could imagine, Vitiate could blame the extinction of his homeworld on the Jedi, further panicking the remaining Sith worlds. Then he could have offered them a glimmer of hope, promising to lead all those who swore loyalty to him to a place where the Jedi would never find them.
For Vitiate (Nov)
Over 300 years ago, the great Jedi heroes Revan and Malak stumbled upon long-hidden Sith Empire's capital of Dromund Kaas, and its ruler - a mysterious, almost godlike avatar of the dark side.
From (Star Wars: The Old Republic Encyclopedia)
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Here:The child who will come to be known as the Sith Emperor is born. Black-eyed, heartless, and supremely strong in the dark side of the Force, the boy seizes control of his homeworld by the age of 13 and earns the title Lord Vitiate. He amasses an army of Sith followers and turns his back on Imperial politics to hone his skills in the dark side.
From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia)
What is this supposed to prove? Not only is it a fallible narrator(s) who had no idea of the actual power of Tenebrae when he was born, the "supremely powerful" bit could simply be dismissed as hyperbole.
And again, we aren't comparing these two as children. Try to compehend that.
The Sith Emperor, history's most powerful dark side master, performed a ritual of incredible scope to consume the life energy of every being on his homeworld.From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia)
Again, the opinion of fallible historians. Literally worthless. And it is referencing TOR Vitiate, not novel Vitiate, who is the one we're discussing here.
he plan was both horrifying and brilliant. In addition to becoming more powerful than Meetra could imagine, Vitiate could blame the extinction of his homeworld on the Jedi, further panicking the remaining Sith worlds. Then he could have offered them a glimmer of hope, promising to lead all those who swore loyalty to him to a place where the Jedi would never find them.
Mind providing the source? And being more powerful than Meetra doesn't prove squat in regards to how he stacks against Qel-Droma, lmao. This is like such a basic concept.
For Vitiate (Nov)Over 300 years ago, the great Jedi heroes Revan and Malak stumbled upon long-hidden Sith Empire's capital of Dromund Kaas, and its ruler - a mysterious, almost godlike avatar of the dark side.
From (Star Wars: The Old Republic Encyclopedia)
Again, worthless source, worthless hyperbole.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Shitiate's powers are a hoax spread by dishonest historians. 👆
They're not necessarily dishonest, they just have an extremely limited understanding and knowledge of actual history, kinda like real historians. Nothing is 100 % reliable information. Everything must be questioned.
Originally posted by Azronger
What is this supposed to prove? Not only is it a fallible narrator(s) who had no idea of the actual power of Tenebrae when he was born, the "supremely powerful" bit could simply be dismissed as hyperbole.And again, we aren't comparing these two as children. Try to compehend that.
Again, the opinion of fallible historians. Literally worthless. And it is referencing TOR Vitiate, not novel Vitiate, who is the one we're discussing here.
Mind providing the source? And being more powerful than Meetra doesn't prove squat in regards to how he stacks against Qel-Droma, lmao. This is like such a basic concept.
Again, worthless source, worthless hyperbole.
2.The first two quotes refer to Vitiate before he set foot on Dromund Kaas.