Avengers enemies vs X-Men enemies

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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The only shitty debater here is you...

Go back to sucking on Khan; thats the only thing you are good at...

You already embarrassed yourself in this debate with your rebuttal which just restated what has already been thoroughly refuted.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Keep saying that you liar...

🙂

Did you really think that sad attempt at baiting would work?

This has been legendarily embarrassing for LoM. Love it.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I guess you missed my edit. Being techno-organic has nothing to do with resisting a hacking attempt or not. Vision did not resist a hacking attempt because he was techno organic, he resisted it because he counter hacked Ultron. Because his AI was smart enough to counter Ultron.

The problem with the future Sentinels is despite their hardware being very advanced (adapting powers) their AI doesn't really seem to be that smart. Nowhere near the levels of Jarvis. And when it comes to hacking, it basically boils down to how good your software is, not your hardware.

So no, your argument doesn't hold much weight because it is without basis. You're throwing a red herring with the "techno organic" stuff but it doesn't really have anything to do with this thread unless you can prove that the sentinels have an organic brain.

Neither LoM or DZ appear to know what hacking is or how it works.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Being techno-organic and more advanced are valid reasons...

I'm sorry you are unable to grasp those reasons...

Jeeze man. You could have at least tried to write a proper response after all the explaining I tried to do for you. I just detailed why being techno-organic has nothing to do with hacking and how they sentinels are not as advanced as Jarvis in terms of AI.

Are you just going to cover your ears and go blah blah blah?

Techno Organic means part Organic processing right? That cant be hacked

Also i think the sentinels just ran on programs.

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Techno Organic means part Organic processing right? That cant be hacked

Also i think the sentinels just ran on programs.

Techno-organic just means the object contains both tech and organic components, do you have any proof that it's "brain" is organic?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Jeeze man. You could have at least tried to write a proper response after all the explaining I tried to do for you. I just detailed why being techno-organic has nothing to do with hacking and how they sentinels are not as advanced as Jarvis in terms of AI.

Are you just going to cover your ears and go blah blah blah?

Its not my fault that you cant grasp the concept that they function much different than conventional machines...

Its not my fault you cant comprehend how a machine that runs on neither electricity or microprocessors would differ from machines that do...

And yes, I'm going to repeat the FACTS from the movies over and over again in the bleak hope that it starts to make sense to you since nothing else seems to work...

No idea but since Vision can "Love" His brain is definitely part organic.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Techno-organic just means the object contains both tech and organic components, do you have any proof that it's "brain" is organic?

Do you have any proof that Ultron can hack machines as advanced and unconventional as Future Sentinels?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Do you have any proof that Ultron can hack machines as advanced and unconventional as Future Sentinels?

You want me to prove that Ultron can hack a computer? have you even seen AoU or know what an AI is?

Originally posted by Silent Master
You want me to prove that Ultron can hack a computer? have you even seen AoU or know what an AI is?

Thats what I thought; a BS answer to go along with the BS lie you told already in this thread...

So I ask again, do you have any feats of Ultron successfully hacking a machine as advanced and unconventional as a Future Sentinel?

A plain yes or no will do...

Meh...

The voting stands at 12-1...

KMC has spoken; what you think matters not...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thats what I thought; a BS answer to go along with the BS lie you told already in this thread...

So I ask again, do you have any feats of Ultron successfully hacking a machine as advanced and unconventional as a Future Sentinel?

A plain yes or no will do...

How is it a BS answer, are you claiming that the Sentinel isn't run by a computer?

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
No idea but since Vision can "Love" His brain is definitely part organic.

Vision's "brain" is Jarvis. Ultron's "brain" is/was the mind gem.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Its not my fault that you cant grasp the concept that they function much different than conventional machines...

Its not my fault you cant comprehend how a machine that runs on neither electricity or microprocessors would differ from machines that do...

And yes, I'm going to repeat the FACTS from the movies over and over again in the bleak hope that it starts to make sense to you since nothing else seems to work...

You're going to repeat facts from the movies that have nothing to do with this hacking debate. Why? Because you don't understand what hacking entails. It's like you keep mentioning how big your muscles are when we're discussing about a quiz bee.

A machine that runs on neither electricity or microprocessors didn't seem to be a problem when Ultron and Vision tried to hack each other. Why are you sidestepping this fact?

Prove that the sentinel's programming and software function differently from conventional machines?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder

So I ask again, do you have any feats of Ultron successfully hacking a machine as advanced and unconventional as a Future Sentinel?

A plain yes or no will do...

Yes. He hacked Jarvis, who's a far more advanced AI than the sentinels.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes. He hacked Jarvis, who's a far more advanced AI than the sentinels.

I don't think LoM understands what computers or hacking are.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes. He hacked Jarvis, who's a far more advanced AI than the sentinels.

While I would tend to agree, the Sentinels did possess technology far more advanced than Jarvis and the IM armor with their ability to seemingly copy any mutant power. So while their computing power hasn'y shown to be above Ultron's vast abilities, the technology could potentially be alien and beyond him.

The closes thing I can think of would be Vision's (as Ultron created the body) ability to alter his tangibility and density, but even the Sentinels could have for example mimicked Pryde's ability to pass through walls. Though not sure if that power is inherent to the body or if it comes from the stone, I would err on the side of the stone unless outright specified.

More of a food for thought, than saying you're outright incorrect.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes. He hacked Jarvis, who's a far more advanced AI than the sentinels.

Lets talk about the AI...

I call BS on Jarvis being a far more advanced AI...

The Future Sentinels were built to be highly effective killing machines (thus there was no need to have them speak, they can devote all of their processing power to killing) and appear to be highly optimized for the task...

The Future Sentinels have superior combat feats than Jarvis, Ultron, his Clones, or Vision...

In my minds eye this speaks to some combination of superior progamming and/or superior processing power which results in speedier/more accurate combat actions...

The proof is in the pudding, the Sentinels combat feats shit all over Ultron and his Clones:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq2qnGg_SSs