Avengers enemies vs X-Men enemies

Originally posted by FrothByte
I can also prove that no sentinel has countered a hacking attempt by an AI as advanced as Ultron.

In fact, the future sentinels have zero proof that they have any security protocols in place to counter a hacker.

And then there's proof that the sentinels did not exactly display high levels of intelligence.

Now personally I'm on the fence on whether Ultron can hack them or not, but your arguments don't really hold much weight since they can be easilt nullified with the counter arguments i just provided.

Edit:

Furthermore, you can't just use "because they're techno-organic" as a reason why they can't be hacked. Vision was not hacked due to him being techno organic but because his AI was smart enough to counter-hack Ultron. There's no proof that it had anything to do with him being techno-organic.

Let's just laugh at him...

Originally posted by quanchi112
You made a claim it is advanced and therefore can repel it so prove it. You made the claims. Ultron can hack prove the sentinel can resist. You theorizing isn't proving your case. Useless conjecture it's how you debate.

That isn't the point. Black widow and Hawkeye aren't a legitimate threat to Ultron. That is clear to anyone without a childlike retardation such as yourself. Just because they can kill some doesn't mean they are a problem to Ultron. It took the combined might of the avengers, vision, and an infinity stone to defeat him.

You haven't used one facts just useless conjecture. I doubt you even know what the word conjecture means are you're a retard who can't even use a period.

Blah, blah, blah...

You ramble like a GD retard...

I've back up my argument with facts and two unescapable facts here are that:

Ultron has NEVER hacked something as advanced as a Future Sentinel...

Ultron has a 0-1 lifetime record when attempting to hack techo-organic beings (which the Future Sentinels happen to be)...

Those are the FACTS...

Not speculation...

FACTS...

Read em and weep loser...

🙂

LoM continues to just repeat his baseless claims which boil down to nuh uh.

Laughing at ya, LoM. Along with everyone else who talks down to you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sinking holes in LOM's lack of actual comprehension in what is taking place. He's a modern day moron. He can't even use a period.

Let's just laugh at him...

We laugh at you when you claim that Khan can beat Yoda...

😂

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Blah, blah, blah...

You ramble like a GD retard...

I've back up my argument with facts and two unescapable facts here are that:

Ultron has [b]NEVER hacked something as advanced as a Future Sentinel...

Ultron has a 0-1 lifetime record when attempting to hack techo-organic beings (which the Future Sentinels happen to be)...

Those are the FACTS...

Not speculation...

FACTS...

Read em and weep loser...

🙂 [/B]

Sentinels just fought. They use battle tactics and have shown little to anything else on screen.

Ultron hacks the sentinels who have shown no defense as Vision has.

Originally posted by quanchi112
LoM continues to just repeat his baseless claims which boil down to nuh uh.

Laughing at ya, LoM. Along with everyone else who talks down to you.

My claims are backed up by the movies...

Read em and weep loser!

😂

💃

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
We laugh at you when you claim that Khan can beat Yoda...

😂

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
My claims are backed up by the movies...

Read em and weep loser!

😂

💃

Originally posted by quanchi112
That isn't a fact it's speculation on your end you haven't proven. Vision showed he could repel the tactic while the sentinels haven't ever proven said defense.

Sentinels just fought. They use battle tactics and have shown little to anything else on screen.

Ultron hacks the sentinels who have shown no defense as Vision has.

How do you know the Sentinels have no defense?

You didnt write or direct the movie...

You are just a trolling loser who accepts what you like and ignores what you dont like...

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then show the sentinels repelling a hacking attempt. If you can't then you concede the claim.

All I have to prove are two things:

Ultron has never hacked anything as advanced as a Future Sentinel...fact.

Ultron has never successfully hacked a tech-organic being...fact.

Its up to you to prove that Ultron can do it despite the above...good luck.

🙂

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Silent made the initial assertion that Ultron could hack them; the burden is on him to back up his claim...

And has to back up that burden with the facts in place that Ultron has never hacked anything as advanced as a Future Sentinel and has a 0-1 record when attampting to hack techo-organic beings...

The above is provable fact; not speculation...

So yeah, my argument holds alot of weight because its backed up by what we saw on screen...

I guess you missed my edit. Being techno-organic has nothing to do with resisting a hacking attempt or not. Vision did not resist a hacking attempt because he was techno organic, he resisted it because he counter hacked Ultron. Because his AI was smart enough to counter Ultron.

The problem with the future Sentinels is despite their hardware being very advanced (adapting powers) their AI doesn't really seem to be that smart. Nowhere near the levels of Jarvis. And when it comes to hacking, it basically boils down to how good your software is, not your hardware.

So no, your argument doesn't hold much weight because it is without basis. You're throwing a red herring with the "techno organic" stuff but it doesn't really have anything to do with this thread unless you can prove that the sentinels have an organic brain.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
How do you know the Sentinels have no defense?

You didnt write or direct the movie...

You are just a trolling loser who accepts what you like and ignores what you dont like...

Neither did you. 😂

Your own points apply to you and sink your own battleship.

I ignored nothing whereas you made something up not seen or referenced in the film. Ultron solos.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
All I have to prove are two things:

Ultron has never hacked anything as advanced as a Future Sentinel...fact.

Ultron has never successfully hacked a tech-organic being...fact.

Its up to you to prove that Ultron can do it despite the above...good luck.

🙂

Due to other reasons not seen by the sentinels. The reason wasn't he was techno organic. Did you even see the movie ? 😂

Claims are backed yours aren't. Get the **** out of the thread. You always back down to me. You always will.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I guess you missed my edit. Being techno-organic has nothing to do with resisting a hacking attempt or not. Vision did not resist a hacking attempt because he was techno organic, he resisted it because he counter hacked Ultron. Because his AI was smart enough to counter Ultron.

The problem with the future Sentinels is despite their hardware being very advanced (adapting powers) their AI doesn't really seem to be that smart. Nowhere near the levels of Jarvis. And when it comes to hacking, it basically boils down to how good your software is, not your hardware.

So no, your argument doesn't hold much weight because it is without basis. You're throwing a red herring with the "techno organic" stuff but it doesn't really have anything to do with this thread unless you can prove that the sentinels have an organic brain.

I dont have to prove that they have an organic brain...

I can prove that they are not traditional machines; that is inescapable fact...

I can prove that they are immune to magnetic manipulation which indicates a number of things like (in all likelyhood) they dont run on electricity (they appear to run on that yellow ball in their torso) as electricity and magnetism are different sides of the same coin (you cant affect one without affecting the other and we know for a fact that the Sentinels are immune to magetism)...

There is simply no way to know if Ultron can hack something as unconventional as a Future Sentinel...

We have a sample size of him attempting to hack one unconventional machine...and Ultron failed at it.

That is a fact....an unescapable fact.

Read this and read it well; try to understand it:

Ultron has no feat of successsfully hacking something as advanced and unconventional as a Future Sentinel...

No feat whatsoever...

Thats a fact dude...

You cant fudge an argument around that...

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then you have to prove that the sentinel is so advanced it won't be hacked here.

Due to other reasons not seen by the sentinels. The reason wasn't he was techno organic. Did you even see the movie ? 😂

Claims are backed yours aren't. Get the **** out of the thread. You always back down to me. You always will.

You always bow down to Khan when he has his c0ck in your face... 😂

I've backed up my claims with facts; you lose...

🙂

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
You always bow down to Khan when he has his c0ck in your face... 😂

I've backed up my claims with facts; you lose...

🙂

No, you haven't used one fact. You say something and then reach a conclusion you have yet to prove. Your claims are baseless. It makes debating you laughable since you don't grasp what is being said. It's fun to mock you. You're a loser.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is off topic and another poor attempt at you to troll because you're getting your ass kicked in another debate.

No, you haven't used one fact. You say something and then reach a conclusion you have yet to prove. Your claims are baseless. It makes debating you laughable since you don't grasp what is being said. It's fun to mock you. You're a loser.

Nope, I stated the facts repeatly...

You are just an ignorant fanboy that ignores anything he doesnt like...

The facts have spoken; begone troll boy...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Nope, I stated the facts repeatly...

You are just an ignorant fanboy that ignores anything he doesnt like...

The facts have spoken; begone troll boy...

Posters try to explain it to you but you hilariously don't get it. I love how dumb you are. I enjoy berating morons.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I dont have to prove that they have an organic brain...

I can prove that they are not traditional machines; that is inescapable fact...

I can prove that they are immune to magnetic manipulation which indicates a number of things like (in all likelyhood) they dont run on electricity (they appear to run on that yellow ball in their torso) as electricity and magnetism are different sides of the same coin (you cant affect one without affecting the other and we know for a fact that the Sentinels are immune to magetism)...

There is simply no way to know if Ultron can hack something as unconventional as a Future Sentinel...

We have a sample size of him attempting to hack one unconventional machine...and Ultron failed at it.

That is a fact....an unescapable fact.

Read this and read it well; try to understand it:

Ultron has no feat of successsfully hacking something as advanced and unconventional as a Future Sentinel...

No feat whatsoever...

Thats a fact dude...

You cant fudge an argument around that...

I don't think you understand how hacking works. It has very little to do with hardware and everything to do with software.

You can't just go "Oh the sentinels look unconventional, they must be hard to hack". You're basing it all on looks when the real discussion to be had here is about brains.

Ultron was able to hack Jarvis, probably the smartest AI on Earth. If you really want to claim that the sentinels are so advanced they can't be hacked, then you need to prove that their AI is at least as advanced as Jarvis.

Because no matter how impressive their bodies and powers may seem, it's not their bodies that will be hacked in to but their mind/control center. And nothing we've seen in the movies shows that they are anywhere near smart enough to counter Ultron.

Read this and read this well: The future sentinels have no proof whatsoever of having an AI anywhere near as advanced as Jarvis.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I don't think you understand how hacking works. It has very little to do with hardware and everything to do with software.

You can't just go "Oh the sentinels look unconventional, they must be hard to hack". You're basing it all on looks when the real discussion to be had here is about brains.

LoM must have no self esteem. He's being mocked so badly for not understanding what hacking actually means. Log out LoM you're done here.