Supergirl vs. MCU Thor

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes, I'm saying she can't punch with her full strength.

Based on what exactly? She defeated Astra and Bizarro who were as strong as her.

Just because she doesn't goes around striking landmasses does not makes her punch weaker.

Pretty much every person who isn't a properly trained fighter can't punch with their full strength.

But she is a trained fighter and has been trained by Alex.

But how much force do you think she uses of her strength? Because even if she punches half as hard as her strength, it's way above Thor.

Originally posted by abhilegend

But she is a trained fighter and has been trained by Alex.

But how much force do you think she uses of her strength? Because even if she punches half as hard as her strength, it's way above Thor.

So I'm assuming your up to date on S2 of Supergirl and can provide some additional context: Seems like that would be helpful to this debate. Afterall stats aren't the end all to a fight and going by S1 Supergirl would loose handily despite her supeior stats over Thor given her consistent under performance against villains of the week.

I don't think anyone is arguing Thor's stronger than Supergirl however Thor does have better on-screen striking feats and an ability to genuinely hurt Supergirl. It doesn't help that regular humans give Supergirl trouble too...least in S1.

Originally posted by KingD19
So you're saying boxers can lift as much weight equal to the amount of force they generate from punches?

Striking is always greater than lifting.

Even if it wasn't then common sense states that if someone can casually lift something without effort then they can punch with at least similar force.

Originally posted by Silent Master
At no time have you ever posted a clip/video of SG hitting with millions of tons of force, you really need to stop lying.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Nope, lifting is not the same as hitting. That's why powerlifters don't punch as strong as heavyweight boxers. And like I said, SG has no single feat where she actually looks close to hitting at a million tons.

You can't keep claiming she hits at a million tons just basing it off a lifting feat when her actual striking feats completely contradict your what you're saying.

Originally posted by FrothByte
A feat is a feat. Nothing in Ironman's explanation of what they were doing could explain the core contributing to the surface shockwave. That was pure Thor.

Originally posted by FrothByte
A lightning strike is a strike. That's why it's called a strike dumbass. Fact is, SG has no single power output that can match Thor's Jotunheim and Sokovia strikes.

Originally posted by h1a8
There are multiple ways of proving a character's capable of performing a feat without them actually doing the feat. Casually lifting a million tons proves it.

No it doesn't, especially when 100% of her striking feats contradict your assertion.

Originally posted by h1a8
But that strike is irrelevant to this discussion (of who wins). What good is striking the ground in that manner is going to help Thor win?

Striking the ground? He's going to bop her on the f*cking head with it. Her combat speed 90% of the time is laughable. He does to her, what he did to Cap's shield when they first met. Except it's the top of her head.

Let's go into a little H1 logic, Thor survived the bifrost explosion without even a scratch, therefore even if Supergirl can hit with a million tons of force it's not going to do her any good as she will never get past his durability.

He also survived Sokovia blowing up in his face. Twice he's been hit with multi-megaton level explosions point blank and the worst he's gotten is dinged up and couple second long KO.

Originally posted by KingD19
Striking the ground? He's going to bop her on the f*cking head with it. Her combat speed 90% of the time is laughable. He does to her, what he did to Cap's shield when they first met. Except it's the top of her head.

Here's where you are creating a double standard.
You are using an outlier for Thor's Lightning strike power but at the same time are arguing that 90% of the time SG speed is laughable.

Anyway I use highest showings only just like everyone does for Thor.
That means that Thor couldn't harm her in the slightest.
Why?
1. Her skin can resist pressure above a billion Psi.
2. Her perception with make her see Thor literally frozen in time.
3. She can hit Thor before he moves an inch.
4. She could one shot Thor (even when holding back).
5. Her hv can do him some damage from a distance.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Let's go into a little H1 logic, Thor survived the bifrost explosion without even a scratch, therefore even if Supergirl can hit with a million tons of force it's not going to do her any good as she will never get past his durability.

The bifrost explosion wasn't more than 100 tons per square inch on Thor.
I judge the power by how much it could lift. I barely see 2 stacked 50ton tanks being lifted by such an explosion.

At best, you can't quantify or prove that the explosion was more than a million tons of force.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No it doesn't, especially when 100% of her striking feats contradict your assertion.

Originally posted by h1a8
The bifrost explosion wasn't more than 100 tons per square inch on Thor.
I judge the power by how much it could lift. I barely see 2 stacked 50ton tanks being lifted by such an explosion.

At best, you can't quantify or prove that the explosion was more than a million tons of force.

Given the size of the explosion and the amount of water it displaced, saying it only generated 100 tons of force psi is incredibly stupid and just proves that you're massively low-balling Thor.

Originally posted by h1a8
But that doesn't disprove the assertion. Almost every character has contradictory showings.

It proves that she has never once in her entire career hit with anything even approaching a million tons of force.

Originally posted by h1a8
Here's where you are creating a double standard.
You are using an outlier for Thor's Lightning strike power but at the same time are arguing that 90% of the time SG speed is laughable.

Anyway I use highest showings only just like everyone does for Thor.
That means that Thor couldn't harm her in the slightest.
Why?
1. Her skin can resist pressure above a billion Psi.
2. Her perception with make her see Thor literally frozen in time.
3. She can hit Thor before he moves an inch.
4. She could one shot Thor (even when holding back).
5. Her hv can do him some damage from a distance.

1. What showing is this?
2. Why does she always get hit by people then? Regular humans included?
3. Again, there's so much proof against this. Like everyone hitting her all the time.
4. Who has she one-shotted?
5. He's shown vastly superior reflexes and would bounce her HV back with Mjolnir like he did the Destroyer, Chitauri blasts, etc...

Well there's always this infamous scene to go back to if your really want to argue Sueprgirl' strength is the end all of this match:

YouTube video

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Well there's always this infamous scene to go back to if your really want to argue Sueprgirl' strength is the end all of this match:

YouTube video

Let's wait for h1's convoluted and 100% wrong argument that by struggling with quicksand, Kara is somehow even stronger.

Originally posted by KingD19
Striking the ground? He's going to bop her on the f*cking head with it. Her combat speed 90% of the time is laughable. He does to her, what he did to Cap's shield when they first met. Except it's the top of her head.

A person only experiences a tiny fraction of the total explosion power (Thor less than 1/1000). This is because the majority of the power goes out in all the other directions.

That's why resisting a planet explosion is astronomically less than resisting an attack that directly explodes a planet.

Finally, it wasn't all an explosion. It was part a crumbling domino effect. Just like trying to lift a building will cause it to collapse.