Supergirl vs. MCU Thor

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Chain reaction happened when Thor's Lightning met the reactor core.

But the whole initial disintegration of the top of the landscape was all Thor.

And I disagree with what you said. Energy was protruding from the landmass right before Thor struck. Thor struck the generator to send the energy through.

The very fact that IM overloaded the engines prior and told Thor "On my mark" and Thor struck the generator makes it a shared and quantifiable feat.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Have you noticed that the people who say things like Supergirl can one shot Thor, never seem to post any fighting clips of her hitting with that level of force?

Just simply state they don't exist. Don't ask someone to produce something that you very well know don't exist.

This is trolling the thread.

The debate is whether her "key" feat can be used to determine her strength level in a forum fight.
Is she capable of lifting a million ton key in a forum if it is laying down on the battlefield?

Originally posted by h1a8
And it's funny how you troll and always ask for things that do not exist.

Just simply state they don't exist. Don't ask someone to produce something that you very well know don't exist.

This is trolling the thread.

The debate is whether her "key" feat can be used to determine her strength level in a forum fight.
Is she capable of lifting a million ton key in a forum if it is laying down on the battlefield?

So you finally admit that Supergirl has never once hit with millions of tons of force?

The answer is no, it can't. if you disagree we can always get a mod ruling and you know how that'll end.

Originally posted by h1a8

The debate is whether her "key" feat can be used to determine her strength level in a forum fight.
Is she capable of lifting a million ton key in a forum if it is laying down on the battlefield?

Wrong. The debate is whether she can hit with a million tons of force. All of her fighting feats proves that this is not true, and you have shown absolutely zero proof to back up your claim that she can.

No one here cares whether she can lift a million tons in the middle of the battlefield.

She is usually portrayed on a level closer to Iron Man, so that other humans can be involved in the surrounding environment without being pulverized by shockwaves of "Superman vs Zod"--like battles, and to keep the humans in the visual vicinity for the television show for the sake of their character involvement. If the Thor or Gen Zod were to be portrayed in the movie or her television series, they would both when, but it would be closer to the colossus versus angel dust fight, where it would be more like an equivalent human man versus a well-trained woman. The man would win. She might be able to use her heat vision in a way to counter Thors hammer as a ranged attack or something like that, but she would get pounded down in a minute or two by either one of those guys. Personally I don't think we can use the millions of tons listings feet for her consistently, but we would have to bring her Uppalevel from hell she is portrayed against weaker enemies as well. A kryptonian versus a kryptonian would be portrayed is relatively similar, and Supergirl versus four would be portrayed as something Similar. That's my final answer, for what it's worth.

OK I'm a complete idiot for all the misspellings in the post above. Please try to hallucinate and imagine what it should say. I cannot edit the post any longer.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Wrong. The debate is whether she can hit with a million tons of force. All of her fighting feats proves that this is not true, and you have shown absolutely [b]zero proof to back up your claim that she can.

No one here cares whether she can lift a million tons in the middle of the battlefield. [/B]

Originally posted by h1a8
If she can casually lift a million tons on the battle field then she can automatically strike with more force. Common sense really. Argument against it is trolling.

Common sense dictates that fighting feats are a lot more accurate than lifting feats in determining how a person fights

Originally posted by h1a8
If she can casually lift a million tons on the battle field then she can automatically strike with more force. Common sense really. Argument against it is trolling.

All her other feats say that she can't hit with that level of force, if you disagree we can always go for a mod ruling.

Originally posted by Silent Master
All her other feats say that she can't hit with that level of force, if you disagree we can always go for a mod ruling.

That has nothing to do with what I said.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Common sense dictates that fighting feats are a lot more accurate than lifting feats in determining how a person fights

So you agree to get a mod ruling?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So you agree to get a mod ruling?

If she casually lift a million tons in a forum then she can't strike with beyond millions of tons of force in a forum either.

But if people accept that she can casually lift a million tons in a forum then they must accept that she has the capacity of punching with equivalent or more force.

I'm fine with either (she can't casually lift a million tons in a forum or she can) as long as multiple people agree.

So you're refusing a mod ruling?

Originally posted by h1a8
Mod rulings don't apply to if then scenarios.

If she casually lift a million tons in a forum then she can't strike with beyond millions of tons of force in a forum either.

But if people accept that she can casually lift a million tons in a forum then they must accept that she has the capacity of punching with equivalent or more force.

I'm fine with either (she can't casually lift a million tons in a forum or she can) as long as multiple people agree.

No, you can't make up your own rules. In this forum, we accept feats above all else. We accept the key lifting feat as a lifting feat which can be used to supplement a fighting argument, but ultimately fighting feats will be more valid for a fighting argument. Supergirl never hits at a million tons of force, not even close. So regardless of how good her lifting feats are, if it actually contradicts what is shown in her fighting feats then fighting feats take precedence when talking about an actual fight.

Had we been talking about a lifting contest then it would be different.

Now if you disagree with all of these then you should go ahead and agree to a mod ruling.

Considering h1's insistence on using what he calls RL science, he should be the first one trying to dismiss the key feat.

Actually h1, can you actually prove that that key is a million tons in weight?

Originally posted by FrothByte
No, you can't make up your own rules. In this forum, we accept feats above all else. We accept the key lifting feat as a lifting feat which can be used to supplement a fighting argument, but ultimately fighting feats will be more valid for a fighting argument. Supergirl never hits at a million tons of force, not even close. So regardless of how good her lifting feats are, if it actually contradicts what is shown in her fighting feats then fighting feats take precedence when talking about an actual fight.

Had we been talking about a lifting contest then it would be different.

Now if you disagree with all of these then you should go ahead and agree to a mod ruling.

So you agree that SG can lift a million tons in a forum but doesn't have the capacity to punch with a million tons or more in a forum?

Originally posted by h1a8
So you agree that SG can lift a million tons in a forum but doesn't have the capacity to punch with a million tons or more in a forum?

Sure, as long as that million tons figure is proven without a shadow of a doubt then I have no problems agreeing that she can lift that much. But until she's shown actually hitting with a million tons, and especially when all of her fight scenes indicate that she hits much much lower, then she just doesn't hit at a million tons. Do you agree?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Sure, as long as that million tons figure is proven without a shadow of a doubt then I have no problems agreeing that she can lift that much. But until she's shown actually hitting with a million tons, and especially when all of her fight scenes indicate that she hits much much lower, then she just doesn't hit at a million tons. Do you agree?

If you accept her being able to lift a million tons (casually) in a forum then you must accept her having the capacity of striking with similar or more force CASUALLY.

It is asinine to be able to casually lift something but not be able to casually strike with the same force.

To argue otherwise is trolling. I'm serious!

Now if you don't accept her being able to casually lift a million tons in a forum then it's valid to not accept her being able to strike with that amount of force or more.

Since you don't accept her being able to lift a million tons casually in a forum then you are not trolling. So no reports.