Kenobi vs Maul: How Did It Happen?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah but there wasn't really any fight to enjoy. It was too short. The enjoyable bits were the exchange of words between them, but there was nothing to the fight itself Imho, except "hey look how much better Obi-Wan is than Maul.."

Given the promotion and build up to it, I was very disappointed. If you look at their fights in TCW, Obi-Wan looked like the better combatant, but it was still always a great back and forth fight. So this being their final and ultimate confrontation was a big let down to me personally. Give me TCW over Rebels any day.

Obi-Wan simply improved, while Maul didn't. Maul stayed a 7 or 8 but Obi-Wan might be now on Yoda/Sidious level. Who knows.

Maul was an 8 in TPM as per Gillard.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Obi-Wan simply improved, while Maul didn't.

That's fine, but they can still have a fight. Look at Yoda vs Dooku.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
but Obi-Wan might be now on Yoda/Sidious level. Who knows.

More like Dooku/Mace level I'd say.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Obi-Wan simply improved, while Maul didn't. Maul stayed a 7 or 8 but Obi-Wan might be now on Yoda/Sidious level. Who knows.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah but there wasn't really any fight to enjoy. It was too short. The enjoyable bits were the exchange of words between them, but there was nothing to the fight itself Imho, except "hey look how much better Obi-Wan is than Maul.."

Given the promotion and build up to it, I was very disappointed. If you look at their fights in TCW, Obi-Wan looked like the better combatant, but it was still always a great back and forth fight. So this being their final and ultimate confrontation was a big let down to me personally. Give me TCW over Rebels any day.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah but there wasn't really any fight to enjoy. It was too short. The enjoyable bits were the exchange of words between them, but there was nothing to the fight itself Imho, except "hey look how much better Obi-Wan is than Maul.."

Given the promotion and build up to it, I was very disappointed. If you look at their fights in TCW, Obi-Wan looked like the better combatant, but it was still always a great back and forth fight. So this being their final and ultimate confrontation was a big let down to me personally. Give me TCW over Rebels any day.

To me, the unexpected quickness and samurai-esque clash was welcome. Just a matter of taste.

There I agree, TCW is the superior cartoon of the two. 👆

Originally posted by Darth Thor
That's fine, but they can still have a fight. Look at Yoda vs Dooku.

More like Dooku/Mace level I'd say.

Dooku might be skillwise on almost the same level as Yoda and Sidious, yet lacks (though very powerful) their depth in the force.

Kenobi was above Maul, more so than Yoda was above Dooku. Sans this Yoda took it easy on Dooku, as he was his apprentice once.

Maul is good, as fine as some of the best Jedi Knights, but he is not on the level of Masters like Dooku, Yoda, Sidious and obviously Kenobi. This was portrayed by the duel quite good.

I wonder how Kenobi vs Darth Vader would have went if Kenobi wouldn't give Vader the killing blow.

Omg, who would've expected Quanchi to be in denial over Ben's utter ownage of Maul? Probably nobody. 🙂

Anyway, Quan. Sure, your psychological state matters when fighting any opponent, especially if said opponent is the reason of your unstable state of mind. You had ROTS Vader vs. ROTS Kenobi, when both were broken while fighting. You have ROTJ Vader vs. ROTJ Luke. They were also mentally broken whilst fighting, for obvious reasons. Yet, those two fights are considered epic, as all combatants go blow-for-blow [or at least close to it].

Ben Kenobi beat Maul down in literally three strikes, bro. I don't give a shit how 'lost' he was, that was outright pathetic.

At this point, I'm seriously simply amused at your max level denial regarding Maul's position in the mythos, tbh.

Maul died an heroic death, I won't tolerate this disrespect. uhuh

Yeah, seeking out Kenobi was definitely equal to an heroing.

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Originally posted by Petrus
Omg, who would've expected Quanchi to be in denial over Ben's utter ownage of Maul? Probably nobody. 🙂

Anyway, Quan. Sure, your psychological state matters when fighting any opponent, especially if said opponent is the reason of your unstable state of mind. You had ROTS Vader vs. ROTS Kenobi, when both were broken while fighting. You have ROTJ Vader vs. ROTJ Luke. They were also mentally broken whilst fighting, for obvious reasons. Yet, those two fights are considered epic, as all combatants go blow-for-blow [or at least close to it].

Ben Kenobi beat Maul down in literally three strikes, bro. I don't give a shit how 'lost' he was, that was outright pathetic.

At this point, I'm seriously simply amused at your max level denial regarding Maul's position in the mythos, tbh.

Difference is Maul is well past his prime. Kenobi knew who he was in the moment and Maul was broken and a lost person at the time of the duel.

When did any creator state both were broken and lost. Anakin became Vader and was at his physical apex. Kenobi was heartbroken his former pupil turned on the very order they both were a part of but knew what he needed to do. When the time came Kenobi cleaved body parts off the idiotic Vader.

You don't have the maturity to grasp the factors that go into a master duel and just want to see a lot of strikes and defenses. Thankfully no one as immature as yourself will ever create a Star Wars fight because you're too limited in your education regarding the multiple avenues of how to achieve maximum tension.

You cannot deny the creators who wrote the fight. I get it that you're ignorant but you only hurt your own credibility and no one else's.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Yeah, seeking out Kenobi was definitely equal to an heroing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The creators disagree and have already laid out the reasons. You're in denial and are young and probably just want more of the same a long drawn out battle with sabers. That's been done to death with these two. Duration of combat doesn't necessarily denote greater skill especially in light of the fact the creators have laid out the reasons for this duel.

Difference is Maul is well past his prime. Kenobi knew who he was in the moment and Maul was broken and a lost person at the time of the duel.

When did any creator state both were broken and lost. Anakin became Vader and was at his physical apex. Kenobi was heartbroken his former pupil turned on the very order they both were a part of but knew what he needed to do. When the time came Kenobi cleaved body parts off the idiotic Vader.

You don't have the maturity to grasp the factors that go into a master duel and just want to see a lot of strikes and defenses. Thankfully no one as immature as yourself will ever create a Star Wars fight because you're too limited in your education regarding the multiple avenues of how to achieve maximum tension.

You cannot deny the creators who wrote the fight. I get it that you're ignorant but you only hurt your own credibility and no one else's.

😆 It's truly unbelievable how you literally cherry-pick and use arguments out of sheer convenience to use in favour of Maul.

It's one excuse after another with you.

And the creators don't disagree at all. They stated one character evolved/progressed while the other stayed behind/in the past. That's stating Ben Kenobi >> Maul, which they made clear in the series.

Originally posted by Petrus
😆 It's truly unbelievable how you literally cherry-pick and use arguments out of sheer convenience to use in favour of Maul.

It's one excuse after another with you.

And the creators don't disagree at all. They stated one character evolved/progressed while the other stayed behind/in the past. That's stating Ben Kenobi >> Maul, which they made clear in the series.

It highlights the difference between the Sith and the Jedi. Kenobi moved forward Maul did not. That's what makes Maul great. He doesn't let anything go which is the hallmark of greatness. Jordan was the same way. Great athletes have a permanent chip on their shoulder. You can pretend this isn't the case but it's clearly supported. Kenobi is someone who is healthier mentally but he knew who he was. Maul was lost and searching for purpose so he channeled his hatred onto Kenobi.

Kenobi in that moment at Maul's weakest moment won. Maul is far past his prime and in no way wasn't this a duel between master swordsman. The creators were clear and went about it in a different avenue which I enjoy since they've had long duels before.

I am simply going with the evidence and being logical you're being immature and focusing on the number of strikes while ignoring their mental states.

Lmao. We both know that if the tables were turned, you'd be shitting on Kenobi and Vader at this very moment, saying how pathetic they are and how far above them Maul is.

Originally posted by Petrus
Lmao. We both know that if the tables were turned, you'd be shitting on Kenobi and Vader at this very moment, saying how pathetic they are and how far above them Maul is.

Maul went on as a true Sith. Both characters perfectly embodied their opposing philosophies. I have a chip on my shoulder as Maul does. Love it.

Yes. Convenient arguments, Quan.

You're like Lois from Malcolm in the Middle, never giving up even after the war is lost.

Maul wasn't a Sith by Rebels. And a Sith doesn't speak of himself and his enemy as one on his deathbed. 😬

Originally posted by SunRazer
Maul wasn't a Sith by Rebels. And a Sith doesn't speak of himself and his enemy as one on his deathbed. 😬

Filoni hopes the duel, and the moments after, are the perfect representation of one of the most important conflicts in all of Star Wars.

“It really is to express the difference between the Jedi and the Sith. Which is the Jedi become selfless and the Sith remain selfish. When pressed, because Obi-Wan is protecting someone else in the end, he does fight. But because he is so true and knows who he is in that moment, you can’t defeat that. So Obi-Wan is going to strike down Maul because Maul is such a broken and lost person.

You don't get what the scene means, you're a joke, sunrazer.

Maul embodied the Sith whereas Kenobi embodied the Jedi in this battle. It's plain as day but since you're too dumb to get it I provided the quote. Yw, dummy.