Maul's growth as a duelist

Originally posted by Sinious
Maul is either vastly inferior, or constantly finds himself losing to inferior/same level opponents due to his own stupidity. If his incompetence in this regard gets in his way so frequently, even in the most decisive fights in his life, then why not assume he would most likely perform as poorly in versus threads? I don't see how Maul defenders think they are proving anything relevant when there is a pattern here.

Well Legends Maul is better in that regard since he died in TPM, and no I don't count his TCW self as Legends, just Canon. Then later he's brought back as a doppelgänger to fight ANH Vader and shows well enough.

That Maul doesn't exist anymore.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Depends what they're defending. There's no argument anymore for him being Kenobi or Dooku's equal. But he has enough feats to put him above the majority of Masters and Council Members. And in terms of villains he's clearly above the likes of Ventress, Opress and Grievous.

Prime Maul might be Rebel Ahsoka's equal. But that's best case scenario for him at this point.

Originally posted by Sinious
That Maul doesn't exist anymore. Ventress and Grievous can outsmart him tbh. Savage is just as dumb though.

Right hence why I said Legends.

Resurrection is non-canon even to Legends.

Originally posted by Azronger
Resurrection is non-canon even to Legends.

/Shrug

Point being still is that Maul in that continuity doesn't have many low ends. Which was my point to Sin.

Originally posted by Sinious
That Maul doesn't exist anymore. Ventress and Grievous can outsmart him tbh. Savage is just as dumb though.

And Grievous has his fair share of stupid bullshit moments as well.

Legends Maul is non canon and his showing against Vader was legitimately debunked. Why people keep clinging to comics written a decade ago to wank a character who is consistently been shown to be fodder tier is beyond me

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Depends what they're defending. There's no argument anymore for him being Kenobi or Dooku's equal. But he has enough feats to put him above the majority of Masters and Council Members. And in terms of villains he's clearly above the likes of Ventress, Opress and Grievous.

Prime Maul might be Rebel Ahsoka's equal. But that's best case scenario for him at this point.

Originally posted by Sinious
Ventress and Grievous can outsmart him tbh.

Possible but not very likely.

But I can see Grievous cheating. He has no issues using his soldiers for help if he's losing a 1 v 1. In fact he'd probably send magnaguards to "tire" Maul down a little first.

Prime Maul was never better than Vader.

Originally posted by playa1258
Prime Maul was never better than Vader.

Your butt-hurt is showing.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Apparently the short duel is representative of both Maul and Kenobi's growth as swordsman...

https://youtu.be/8eIZsJsck7A?t=505

I mean I get it artistically but this is blatantly contradicted by the canon. Anakin vs. Obi-Wan took place between two extremely talented swordsmen who knew each other the best and its the longest fight in the mythos.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
I mean I get it artistically but this is blatantly contradicted by the canon. Anakin vs. Obi-Wan took place between two extremely talented swordsmen who knew each other the best and its the longest fight in the mythos.

Originally posted by playa1258
Your butt-hurt is showing.

Kenobi is superior to Maul.

Accept it.

Originally posted by playa1258
Kenobi is superior to Maul.

Accept it.

You're upset Vader isn't his own man whereas Maul was. Your fanboyism is showing.

Your butt-hurt fanboyism is showing.

Kenobi is superior.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The simplest explanations are this varies. We know what characters are of high skill levels and both Maul and Kenobi have a very storied and detailed history of canon fights. This duel was done differently and I appreciate the difference in style. I'm also not a mindless fanboy so I don't need a ten minute back and forth to justify someone's skill level either.

Lol the denial is real. I don't need any back and forth. Maul is weak, by far the weakest of the canon Sith Lords and he's weaker than Kenobi. This is what I've been saying for years and Lord Filoni has once again vindicated my views. Thank you Filoni. Thank you.

Originally posted by playa1258
Your butt-hurt fanboyism is showing.

Kenobi is superior.