Originally posted by Rockydonovang
For refrence, here's the quote:https://youtu.be/8eIZsJsck7A?t=7m33s
"The actual duel is very short, how did you come to the conclusion it had to come this way?...(feloni) If you talk to a lot of people who sword fight, they'll tell you people who are very good don't have long fights. So that scene, its a homage to the 7th samurai. I think on one level people would be excited to see a prolonged lightsaber fight. But I just never really saw the confrontation that way because to do that is to say the characters don't have growth "
Ok, you don't prove either character is in their prime just growth. Not the same thing.
1. "this is vader of his prime" -pablo hidalgo. "Kenobi has strenghened his connection to the force"- Feloni and off course the quote i just provided you shows kenobi improved as a duelist despite any physical degradation.
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A source not just you saying he said Vader is in his prime.
I agree Kenobi is stronger in the force and has become wiser but his physical skills and body have declined. Quit repeating yourself.
2. The context of maul and kenobi showing "growth" as "very good duelists" is referring to the moment where kenobi and maul fought. [/B]
That doesn't mean in their primes that means they have grown with experience. Their skills and bodies are worse for the wear.
3. What? The quote i provided from feloni doesn't say anything about "new abilities". It refers to kenobi and maul's "growth" as fighters as a reaspn the fight was so short compared to their earlier "prolonged" saber fights.
4. Kenobi is more powerful and has grown as a duelist, rebels kenobi is prime kenobi. And I never argued tpm kenobi was>tpm maul. How is that relevant to their tcw incarnations[/B]
None of that proves they are in their primes. He has evolved, matured, and is more wise but his physical skills, movement, and dueling has declined. just because someone grows as an athlete doesn't mean they are superior to their younger versions who have more testosterone and physical skills. It's like saying Deion Sanders evolved as a db which is true but his skills have diminshed as he can no longer rely on his physical prowess to the same extent.
And yes, maul was able to unbalance a kenobi who he and oppress had physically wrecked and ambushed. Doesn't change taht when they were actually clashing sabers, maul was taken out of the fight by kenobi twice(saved by kenobi decidning to save ventress from oppress), and that kenobi was able to land several kicks, retrieve his saber and even drive maul back initally when unbalanced. All maul did in the actual duel was land a flurry of kicks on kenobi(an act of desperation resulting from kenobi slamming maul's blade to the ground and leaving him defenseless). A flurry of kicks kenobi instantly recovered from. That fight definitely didn't show maul as superior.
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It happened, your head canon aside [/B]
False, maul was winning. Kenobi quit the fight and was being thrown off by Maul's head games. Maul landed a kick on Palpatine. I guarantee you'll abandon the same logic when I use it in Maul's favor against the Emperor. Yes, since Kenobi retreated and fled.
What also occurred is the new comics series says Maul's prime. It uses the same word prime when you have done anything but. Evolve or growth doesn't mean prime despite your obstinance.