World War Superman

Started by Philosophía16 pages

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He was saved from Iron Man by sabotage, and he was actually devolved by some randomers and had his neck snapped.

Savage was able to power through devolution and transmutation, for example.

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There's literally nothing there that would make me go "damn, that's impressive".

It was Hulk vs kid-powerlevels, while all the big guns were away or skrulls. And the moment he encountered two 'big' guns (Juggernaut and Sentry), it was same old.

Like I said - poor man's Blood & Thunder.

He was restraining himself. That's all I want to convey here

Shut up, carver.

Originally posted by carver9
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true sign of desperation picking up on auto correct.

Don't try and be smart ass as everyone knows what I said about you is true, after all just look at your "ignore list" you like to have on your sig. funny how you always comment on the posts you supposedly ignore.

Delta has already filled me in on what type of human being you are , fake, double standard and coward are spot on for you.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
True sign of desperation picking up on auto corrects.

Don't try and be A smart ass as everyone know what I said about you is true. After all, just look at your "ignore list" you have on your sig. Funny how you always comment on the posts you supposedly ignore.

Delta has already filled me in on what type of human being you are; fake, double standard and A coward are spot on for you.

I have a lot of work to do here.

I'm not really disputing the implied power shown in WWH. I was just noting that he didn't get any real marquee fights is all.
I don't think he was holding back against Juggernaut, mind you (though he was pressed for time). But he was pressed for time. But Juggs' level of invulnerability--even at full power--is hardly depicted with any consistency. The WWH writer could have meant to portray a Juggernaut who is virtually immune to harm, even from the upper tiers. So the fact that Hulk could even hurt him might have been incredibly impressive. Or it might not.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Shut up, carver.
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Originally posted by carver9
I have a lot of work to do here.
funny that you still are reading ignored posters comments eh.

Originally posted by Pillow Biter
I'm not really disputing the implied power shown in WWH. I was just noting that he didn't get any real marquee fights is all.
I don't think he was holding back against Juggernaut, mind you (though he was pressed for time). But he was pressed for time. But Juggs' level of invulnerability--even at full power--is hardly depicted with any consistency. The WWH writer could have meant to portray a Juggernaut who is virtually immune to harm, even from the upper tiers. So the fact that Hulk could even hurt him might have been incredibly impressive. Or it might not.

Well, it was his rebirth. I'm sure Jugs would be portrayed as extremely high end. Kind of like how he was during his rebirth when he came out of the gem after onslaught trapped him...more powerful than ever. Then it also helps that Pak thinks Jugs has unlimited power.

Originally posted by Philosophía
WWH is great in writers intent, but not in showings.

If I'd have been called Incredible Hulk #435-439, nobody would have cared, and it would have been seen as a poor man's Blood & Thunder.

No Thor.
No Surfer.
Stalemate Juggernaut.
Stalemate Sentry.
Zomish-Strange was kicking his shit in, but for CIS.

Big f*cking meh.

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Originally posted by Philosophía
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There's literally nothing there that would make me go "damn, that's impressive".

It was Hulk vs kid-powerlevels, while all the big guns were away or skrulls. And the moment he encountered two 'big' guns (Juggernaut and Sentry), it was same old.

Like I said - poor man's Blood & Thunder.

Nah, you're wrong.

K let me flesh this out out:

Thor/Surfer um well Thor was dead and Surfer was off doing his own thing. They fought in the arc preceding it so writing in either of those guys into a 5 issue mini on top of all the other characters involved makes very little sense. Thor soon returns to the living with an amp and fights a character in the class of savage Hulk and loses round 1 then wins round 2. The same Hulk from WWH wrecks Red hulk casually. Say what you will but there is a lot to expound on to clearly show Green scar is physically above classic Thor. Hercules getting shit on needs no further explanation (but I will lol)

Stalemating Juggernaut was the best showing for classic Juggernaut since.....his 1-issue 1 off? Maybe since Ex-calibur...idunno. Hulk's revenge was a vehicle for him to get re-empowered but still got thrown away like trash and Hulk was heavily restraining his power by several magnitudes. Imagine that one Juggernaut fan getting their old thing back and then seeing him get tossed in the bushes like that. War Hulk already embarrassed him and Mindless Hulk outperformed him massively, not to mention in their first ever confrontation Hulk BFR'd him even easier than that. The main take away is that Juggernaut was the one actually trying whereas Hulk clearly wasn't. There wouldn't have been an East coast if he fought for real

Strange Got bodied by a stronger fighter. He was a glass cannon so it was a matter of time till he got hit and when he did he started seeing Jack Kirby's visage with warm lights beckoning him to a place safe from the pain. He definitely forget a lot of spells after that (enter depowered Strange)

Sentry Same as Juggernaut. He fought hard but he didn't have enough yet we know Hulk had more. Everyone whose fav has a cape had to explain why they were sitting in their own feces as they read it. It was a good fight visually and at least on this forum it was the event of the month. Stop lying about how you all anticipated it and enjoyed it

There are about 50 more characters that got stomped but some choice names:

Black bolt Sure he was a Skrull but then the Secret invasion showed how well they are adept at copying powers, not to mention the damage to the moon during their fight

Hercules....Straight up Pimp/ho scene. Hulk's punches are just different, my guy

Massive post of pathetic bias.

That read like a carver post, and I'm not even joking.

Originally posted by carver9
Damn

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Massive post of pathetic bias.
That Hercules panel gets you every time. It's funny cause you expected a different outcome when Hercules has never fared that well even with Savage Hulk. Sentry was the hope of the the entire squad of Earth based heroes and even he wasn't taken completely seriously.

@Phildo

Fix your screen name or whatever it is that prevents proper responses cause you bring up points that are actually worthy of debate at times....Nihilist doesn't so here we are. Never liken me to Carver ever again in life. He's someone I wouldn't mind choking out and retaining the image of their face while their eyes glaze over. That image being burned in my mind would be a sleep aid rather than a sleep hindrance.

I PM'ed Raz to change my username.

It will be done by 2020.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
That Hercules panel gets you every time. It's funny cause you expected a different outcome when Hercules has never fared that well even with Savage Hulk. Sentry was the hope of the the entire squad of Earth based heroes and even he wasn't taken completely seriously.

@Phildo

Fix your screen name or whatever it is that prevents proper responses cause you bring up points that are actually worthy of debate at times....Nihilist doesn't so here we are. Never liken me to Carver ever again in life. He's someone I wouldn't mind choking out and retaining the image of their face while their eyes glaze over. That image being burned in my mind would be a sleep aid rather than a sleep hindrance.

as usual you're wrong. Your carver lvl bias shines through in that post. Here didn't want to fight and let Hukk beat on him, it's stated on panel ffs.

But continue with f@g crying routine eh "true debater" 😂

It doesn't take a genius to know that whatever conditions you want ot put onto him to make it sting less in your heart, Wolverine's durability is far higher than Hercules'.

As for his offensive capabilities (being a Thor class guy (debatable)): there's kinda this system created based on Hercules' punch power used to gauge things around the hulk related events so save yourself further embarrassment

Make a Sentry vs Hercules thread and try your best to overcome even Sentrry's low showings if you can. I'll stay out of it but I will check to see how well you swim upstream