Ood Bnar (TotJ) vs. Vitiate (Revan)

Started by Geistalt10 pages

Originally posted by Lightsnake
No, he doesn't only cite that. Illustrious, for the- I just showed a link and posted the section showing and proving RPG sourcebook story info is C canon. And that's invalid because THIS IS NOT AN RPG SOURCEBOOK.
I'm reading this thread, laughing my ass off.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-400581-palpatine-most-powerful-sith-lord-in-history.html

Originally posted by Geistalt
Well, per official designation, they're C-canon.

Except Action Figures aren't background information nor are they a part of the Star Wars EU, unless you wanna count all of those puzzles and 2-year-old games from SW Magazines as canon, the SW CineManga canon and Tag and Bink comics canon.

I don't think this is canon tbh, unless it comes with the game product these web publications are likely no less valid than the blogs on SW.com.

Originally posted by MythLord
Except Action Figures aren't background information.
It's not some blurb off the back of action figures; it's a description of those Sith from an Internet article.

Exactly. 🙁

Originally posted by Geistalt
It's not some blurb off the back of action figures; it's a description of those Sith from an Internet article.

That goes with an action figure. :/

Here's some more evidence.
http://web.archive.org/web/20100905012007/http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jspa?threadID=152583&start=552

If it wasn't explicitly C-canon (like "EVERYthing else"😉, you could infer as much by process of elimination.

Except, not EVERYthing is C-canon. There are some things that simply don't fit into the EU continuity and these action figures and their descriptions are one of them.

Everything aside from the movies and T-canon was.

That includes Internet articles.

Forgot to mention outdated (pre-Holocron) S-canon.

And this would be labled as either S or N canon, honestly. If you were to take the SW Miniatures as canon, then Lucien Draay is official on par with Palpatine since both have the same amount of calculated damage output and Hit/Force points(130). And Yoda would be the most powerful Sith(140) and Revan and Caedus would each have 110.

So Yoda > Sidious ~ Lucien Draay > Revan and Caedus. Good job on directly contradicting the established hierarchy. 👆

Originally posted by MythLord
And this would be labled as either S or N canon, honestly.
Source?

C-canon is primarily composed of elements from the Expanded Universe including books, comics, and games bearing the label of Star Wars. Games and RPG sourcebooks are a special case; the stories and general background information are themselves fully C-canon, but the other elements such as character/item statistics and gameplay are, with few exceptions, N-canon.
It goes out of its way to exclude those stats, y'know.

Right. This isn't "general background information" or anything of the sorts, however. It's a strategy manual as to how to apply those action figures and their stats in combat. So it doesn't apply.

Wrong.

It lists the stats separately, after describing the Sith in the game as the most powerful. Hope you're done acting like an ass.

It talks about how to apply said stats in a tactical manner. Hence why it's a Roleplaying Strategy Guide. It speaks of Revan, Caedus and Sidious only in the context of those specific stats given to them.

I hope you're done being a dense cuck.

For whom?

Ulic and Exar Kun?

Within the context of the Roleplaying Miniatures game, it is apparent that Revan and Jacen are better strategic picks than them.

But given that the entire internet article is how to apply characters and their respective stats/points/abilities in combat against one another, and said stats/points/abilities are are N and S canon, then the quotes regarding them(like the one you and Ant are flaunting around) simply don't apply.

Doesn't make them more powerful Sith Lords.

Obviously, within the Roleplaying Game it does. Within the EU, well... it has no place being in the EU to begin with.