Rebels Maul vs Shaak Ti

Started by UCanShootMyNova7 pages

Nah. Shifting the alignment of a planet is much better tbh.

No it's not DD, because Shaak didn't use her power, *burp* she introduced the szechuan sauce to the Felucians DD, and that shifted them towards the light side. Once- *burp* Shaak died, nobody could bring them the sauce DD, so they fell to the dark side. It's all about the Sauce DD, it's been about the sauce from the very beginning. 9 more TFU games where the Starkiller clone searches for Shaak's hidden szechuan sauce DD, gonna be 97 more years of TFU...

I gotta go take a shit.

*Thousands of Ricks scream in terror*

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Pacers were slaughtered by the knicks
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Feloni, the head of all animation projects including rebels, one of rebe;s's creators, and one of rebels' producers and a core member of the lucas film story group has no authority? His word coming in a star wars releashed show with the purpose of giving people info directly from members of the lucasfilm story group(who control canon) about star wars rebels doesn't have authority?

Nah it's his opinion. For it to be Canon fact he'd have to put it to paper in a sourcebook. And even if we take his word as transcript, you're twisting his words, making presumptions that suit your own arguments.

Fact is TCW Maul's showings are superior to Rebels Maul. And that is Canon.

When did Filoni say Rebels Maul > TCW Maul. 😬

Some of these arguments are quite amusing.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
When did Filoni say Rebels Maul > TCW Maul. 😬

Exactly

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Feloni, the head of all animation projects including rebels, one of rebe;s's creators, and one of rebels' producers and a core member of the lucas film story group

And btw, Filoni isn't part of the story group.

Rocky is confused, yeah.

Rebels Maul < TCW Maul, yes, but I really do wonder by how much. I doubt the difference is that significant tbh.

^ Yeah probably not a huge difference.

Tbh I don't think there's a huge difference between any of the major Maul incarnations.

Originally posted by Petrus
Rebels Maul < TCW Maul, yes, but I really do wonder by how much. I doubt the difference is that significant tbh.

Force wise I suppose there's a difference, not too sure about anything else though.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Rocky is confused, yeah.

doesn't really matter. Rebels recon is publishe don sw.com, is released by the official youtube channel star wars prpose and feloni as the head of all animation projects has direct authority over rebels, so yea the quote's still canonical.
A for the quote:
This has been explained here in depth(here's the full video :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eIZsJsck7A). the shortness of the duel was

A. for storytelling purposes it was supposed to be symbolic of their respective growth as characters

B. Because maul and Kenobi and Mul had fought each other multiple times

C. Given the more realistic kind of fighting they styled this after, the shorter fight was chosen partially because the duo improved as duelists and in reali life very good fighters have short fights:

"The actual duel is very short, how did you come to the conclusion it had to come this way?...(feloni) If you talk to a lot of people who sword fight, they'll tell you people who are very good don't have long fights. So that scene, its a homage to the 7th samurai. I think on one level people would be excited to see another prolonged lightsaber fight. But I just never really saw the confrontation that way because to do that is to say the characters don't have growth "
Even if you want to interpret growth to not refer to their skill as duelists(even though the context is clearly about their ability as combatants), duelists" them being "very good" swordsman as a reason for the shorter fight compared to their longer "prolonged" fights in tcw clearly indicates growth. As this is referring to them as of their fight with each other this would factor maul's emotional state(even though logically, it would make him more powerful vs kenobi not less combatively speaking given how darksiders operate) and his physical degradement(which could have been canceled out with force augmentation).

To demonstrate what I mean:

"The actual duel is very short, how did you come to the conclusion it had to come this way?...(feloni) If you talk to a lot of people who sword fight, they'll tell you people who are very good don't have long fights. So that scene, its a homage to the 7th samurai. I think on one level people would be excited to see another prolonged lightsaber fight."
In addition to making clear what "growth" refers to, this alone indicates that they grew as duelists back from when they had "prolonged lightsaber duels". So there's no getting around this, Kenobi and Maul are better fighters than their tcw counterparts.

Now to address possible counters:

A. The context of the quote is clearly only referring to specifically maul and kenobi, so if you stretch this to being an indication of the, being superior to all fighters, you stretching this to such a ridiculous degree, it does'nt invalidate the quote

B. This reasoning works in conjunction with the other reasons for the shortness of the fight

C. If you think its just feloni bsing, too bad, its uncontradicted authority

D. The quote refers to them as swordsman which would inculde any physical degradement or specific weaknesses they have in comparison with their prior incarnations

So any favourable performances rebels characters have vs rebels maul simply raise them, they don't lower maul

Dude, no one was talking about that. But thanks anyway, I guess. 😐

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Dude, no one was talking about that. But thanks anyway, I guess. 😐

Thor, Petrus are nobodies?...
damn, brutal

Not sure

Maul lost to Kanan and got destroyed in 3 moves

He is legit trash tier

Originally posted by carthage
Not sure

Maul lost to Kanan and got destroyed in 3 moves

He is legit trash tier


Ti got held by maul blitz fodder in magna guards

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
doesn't really matter. Rebels recon is publishe don sw.com, is released by the official youtube channel star wars prpose and feloni as the head of all animation projects has direct authority over rebels, so yea the quote's still canonical.
A for the quote:
This has been explained here in depth(here's the full video :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eIZsJsck7A). the shortness of the duel was

A. for storytelling purposes it was supposed to be symbolic of their respective growth as characters

B. Because maul and Kenobi and Mul had fought each other multiple times

C. Given the more realistic kind of fighting they styled this after, the shorter fight was chosen partially because the duo improved as duelists and in reali life very good fighters have short fights:

"The actual duel is very short, how did you come to the conclusion it had to come this way?...(feloni) If you talk to a lot of people who sword fight, they'll tell you people who are very good don't have long fights. So that scene, its a homage to the 7th samurai. I think on one level people would be excited to see another prolonged lightsaber fight. But I just never really saw the confrontation that way because to do that is to say the characters don't have growth "
Even if you want to interpret growth to not refer to their skill as duelists(even though the context is clearly about their ability as combatants), duelists" them being "very good" swordsman as a reason for the shorter fight compared to their longer "prolonged" fights in tcw clearly indicates growth. As this is referring to them as of their fight with each other this would factor maul's emotional state(even though logically, it would make him more powerful vs kenobi not less combatively speaking given how darksiders operate) and his physical degradement(which could have been canceled out with force augmentation).

To demonstrate what I mean:

"The actual duel is very short, how did you come to the conclusion it had to come this way?...(feloni) If you talk to a lot of people who sword fight, they'll tell you people who are very good don't have long fights. So that scene, its a homage to the 7th samurai. I think on one level people would be excited to see another prolonged lightsaber fight."
In addition to making clear what "growth" refers to, this alone indicates that they grew as duelists back from when they had "prolonged lightsaber duels". So there's no getting around this, Kenobi and Maul are better fighters than their tcw counterparts.

Now to address possible counters:

A. The context of the quote is clearly only referring to specifically maul and kenobi, so if you stretch this to being an indication of the, being superior to all fighters, you stretching this to such a ridiculous degree, it does'nt invalidate the quote

B. This reasoning works in conjunction with the other reasons for the shortness of the fight

C. If you think its just feloni bsing, too bad, its uncontradicted authority

D. The quote refers to them as swordsman which would inculde any physical degradement or specific weaknesses they have in comparison with their prior incarnations

So any favourable performances rebels characters have vs rebels maul simply raise them, they don't lower maul

However, Filoni also proceeds to say that he believes Kenobi is better than Maul, and that there's no way he would need to take longer than that to defeat him, so it's not far-fetched at all to conclude that he wanted to display Kenobi's growth and Maul's lack of it by making it this one sided. This would obviously mean that he's referring to Kenobi when he says 'real good swordsmen have short fights', not Maul because well, he's the one who got beat and who was stuck in the old ways.

^ Yes growth as characters is obviously referring more to Kenobi.

Any growth Maul had is clearly neutered by him being "Lost" and "Broken", also Filoni's words.

Going by Canon feats and showings though, Rebels Maul has nothing on TCW/SOD Maul.