My issues with Banite scaling

Started by cs_zoltan7 pages
Originally posted by Rebel95
I've said this before, the chance that every Banite sith was more powerful than the last over such a long period of time is extremely low.

100% is extremely low? Damn...

Jesus Christ. I'd have thought that all this anti-Banite sentiment would've turned up some decent arguments at least.

Why would you think such a thing?

I might've just been shortsightedly optimistic. 🙂

Became more powerful in what context? Did Darth Plagueis retain all abilities of Darth Ramage and then build from it, for example?

All I'm gonna say is: Tenebrous feats are mediocre, the way he died was pathetic, and he's an all time failure. Bane has to be low of the pole, if that is what 30 gen of Sith can produce.

That is all.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
I am still biased.
Thanks DC, but wasn't really needed.

How can people still say that Tenebrous' feats are mediocre? His TK, Speed, Sense and Barrier feats are all amongst the top in the mythos, and he can scale off other amazing Banite feats.

C'mon, u can't honestly be serious right now.

Nah. His TK feat is of a slightly lower class than the others but hardly mediocre.

As I said, you drastically undersell him.

Slightly lower?

I wouldn't say his TK is even top 20 of the mythos. His Force defense showings are solid, but nothing above what Cade displayed, and he is only of the Kenobi class by most, maybe Tyranus class if people wanna wank.

Again, this is all relative to where he is ranked by most here - I mean, Tenebrous' displayed feats doesn't convey the position where he is vaunted to be.

With no evident strain, he managed to telekinetically support layer after layer of collapsing mine ceiling. Said mine tunnel being the size of a cathedral, so a single layer of mine ceiling would be analogous to a cathedral ceiling, and a single layer threatened to crush Tenebrous' ship. And Rugess supported "layer after layer" of them without evident strain.

On a whim, he was capable of conjuring a Barrier that repelled an explosion that was not only collapsing said cathedral-sized mines, but knocked Plagueis (despite him being further away from the explosion than Tenebrous) to the ground.

Tenebrous' Sense was so refined that he could detect his individual midi-chlorians dying out.

His Speed was so great that it nearly knocked Plaugueis over and Hego had to struggle to keep up.

All some of the best in the mythos. 👆

lol @ those being Kenobi or even Dooku tier.

1. As I said, not top 20. 😬
2. Great showing, Cade causally erecting a barrier to shield himself from a lab leveling explosion is around that level, honestly.
3. That's fair.
4. Pretty good, we have no idea how fast Plagues was at the time for this to even be as impressive as you make it to be.

Never exactly said that, so learn to read. 👆 Though, I'd say Dooku's claimed cruiser hurling is comparable to Tenebrous' TK feats, if not better.

1. Name me 20 superior TK feats.

2. Perhaps. If so, that's good for Cade.

3. 🙂

4. Yeah, he shortly gets his lightning feat and appearing as a blur to a droid that could dodge blaster bolts. And even prior to this Hego and Rugess were able to fight armies without being hit once. So Plagueis is clearly extremely fast.

5. Dooku's cruiser feat isn't better. Like, at all. Comparable? Maybe.

Yeah, Tenebrous' as he's presented in the novel is a Force user who can accomplish high-tier feats with little to no strain. The idea that this is a basis for lowballing him is clinically retarded. 🙁

But naturally DC is just being facetious, he can't be that stupid. 😱

So after decades... people finally begin to understand why Palpatine is the 'most powerful Sith Lord'.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Yeah, Tenebrous' as he's presented in the novel is a Force user who can accomplish high-tier feats with little to no strain.

No, sweetie, it's not all that "high-tier" or at least feats worth sharing extremely close parity with Plagues and the likes, when guys like Cade and Dooku's has pulled feats of more than comparable magnitude with equally little restraint.

C'mon babe, I'm pretty sure you're a bit better than this. 🙂

Half of Tenebrous' accomplishments directly outperform Plagueis in the very novel you numpty. 😂

But nah, Cade and Dooku are two of the most powerful Force wielders in mythos (and more consistently capable than the likes of Kyp by a comical number of kilometers), so using the fact they could feasibly accomplish Tenebrous' low showings is a terrible terrible argument with the intellectual stock of a Carthage clone.

I think its time to retire DC, or at the very least, go back to debating TOR trash where they spoon feed you with eli88t accolades super stronk feats. Assessing this characters capabilities is proving too much of a challenge for you. 🙁

Half of Tenebrous' accomplishments directly outperform Plagueisin the very novel you numpty

Umm, not...really? Plagueis is better at more or less everything, sans a few exceptions.

But nah, Cade and Dooku are two of the most powerful Force wielders in mythos.

Both should be in ragdoll range of top-tiers of the mythos where Tene should be, and both have feats that suggest they could replicate his showings. Anyway It's not a matter of whether he's on their level, he's a bit above, and I've gone on record at least given Tenebrous that much credit, only his feats doesn't supersede theirs by the amount someone on his level should.

Anyway, I'm just gonna debate this with the superior Nova, and not further waste my day off with you. Have a nice day. 👆

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Umm, not...really? Plagueis is better at more or less everything, sans a few exceptions.
He was directly outperformed in speed and barrier by Tenebrous yeah.

Both should be in ragdoll range of top-tiers of the mythos where Tene should be, and both have feats that suggest they could replicate his showings.
So? You realise this is also the case for Sidious, Yoda and the like?

It not a matter of whether he's on their level, I've gone on record at least given Tenebrous that much credit, only his feats doesn't supersede theirs by the amount someone on his level should.
There is no should about it lel. Tenebrous is under no obligation from a storytelling perspective to display the full of extent of his power within the pithy set of chapters he appears in. But that doesn't preclude the reader from making broader inferences by applying a little thing called critical thinking. The central issue here being that you are devoid of this rather entirely. My suggestion is, get a clue.

Anyway, I'm just gonna debate this with the superior Nova, and not further waste my day off with you. Have a nice day. 👆
Superior to you yeah, pretty much everyone on here is these days, so have fun getting another buttblasting. 🙁