Orion (grounded) vs Wolverine/Sabertooth/Spiderman

Started by Philosophía24 pages

Originally posted by carver9
it shouldn't even be debated if I read up on these characters or not.
You're one of the least knowledgeable posters regarding Hulk on this forum and that's your favorite character.

That's how pathetic you are, balloon lips.

Originally posted by carver9
😂 ... i always mention fts that people are unaware of

Tbf that's because they don't exist.

The two omigos respond right after my post. How obvious. Keep those notifications on.

Originally posted by carver9
😂 ... i always mention fts that people are unaware of and post scans backing it. It shouldn't even be debated if I read up on these characters or not.

When it's obvious that you haven't, I'm going to bring it up.

I don't go in to threads claiming to know enough about a character to debate them when I don't know what they're capable of. And the few times I thought I knew but ended up not? I accepted the explanations from those that knew more than me.

Originally posted by Philosophía
You're one of the least knowledgeable posters regarding Hulk on this forum and that's your favorite character.

That's how pathetic you are, balloon lips.

At first glance that sounds horribly racist, so I'm going to ask you not to do it again.

Sigh... I didn't even see his terrible reply because of the ignore function. People are so childish and they think it's funny.

Originally posted by -Pr-
When it's obvious that you haven't, I'm going to bring it up.

I don't go in to threads claiming to know enough about a character to debate them when I don't know what they're capable of. And the few times I thought I knew but ended up not? I accepted the explanations from those that knew more than me.

At first glance that sounds horribly racist, so I'm going to ask you not to do it again.

I made this thread because I think these 3 stand a chance. Wolverine consistently fight high end bricks and have hurt them to a point that an argument can be made. This thread went pages because people felt the same way. I added Sabertooth with adamantium because he's near identical to Wolverine. Spiderman is here, not because of his physical stats but more so his webbing. Yes, Orion is strong and fast but he is fighting people with one shot kill weapons and Orion doesn't have a healing factor that I know of that can deal with the damage from adamantium claws. Yes, speed fts were posted but I'm not the only one arguing against those showings. They are just not enough. You can put these 3 against any brick. If you don't have a healing factor to counter the adamantium claws from Wolverine and Sabes (along with Spiderman webbing), they would lose.

Originally posted by carver9
I made this thread because I think these 3 stand a chance. Wolverine consistently fight high end bricks and have hurt them to a point that an argument can be made. This thread went pages because people felt the same way. I added Sabertooth with adamantium because he's near identical to Wolverine. Spiderman is here, not because of his physical stats but more so his webbing. Yes, Orion is strong and fast but he is fighting people with one shot kill weapons and Orion doesn't have a healing factor that I know of that can deal with the damage from adamantium claws. Yes, speed fts were posted but I'm not the only one arguing against those showings. They are just not enough. You can put these 3 against any brick. If you don't have a healing factor to counter the adamantium claws from Wolverine and Sabes (along with Spiderman webbing), they would lose.

Wolverine and Parker are walking plot device characters. They are like Batman, they punch way higher than their pay grades.

If I were to make a Batman vs Hulk, would you say Batman can beat Hulk for the fact that Batman has fought the League and survive?

Originally posted by -Pr-
At first glance that sounds horribly racist, so I'm going to ask you not to do it again.
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He legit posted duck-lips photos in dirty bathrooms to impress Sin. Forum was full of them a while back. His race has nothing to do with it.

But ok.

Originally posted by SquallX
Wolverine and Parker are walking plot device characters. They are like Batman, they punch way higher than their pay grades.

If I were to make a Batman vs Hulk, would you say Batman can beat Hulk for the fact that Batman has fought the League and survive?

Remove Hulk healing factor, give Batman Wolverine adamantium claws and healing factor, he would kill Hulk. Take that statement as you will. Luckily, Hulk have a healing factor to help take the damage Wolverine can dish out. Wolverine fought Red Hulk and was destroying him.

Originally posted by carver9
Remove Hulk healing factor, give Batman Wolverine adamantium claws and healing factor, he would kill Hulk. Take that statement as you will. Luckily, Hulk have a healing factor to help take the damage Wolverine can dish out. Wolverine fought Red Hulk and was destroying him.

Sure as hell didn’t help when Batman knocked him out.

😂

That's not what Squall meant.

Wolverine gets a free pass because.,..why? Ok, he has the claws, but he doesn't have the speed feats Batman has. He has a HF, sure, but Batman has durability feats (hello WW!) as well.

They're both comic characters , logically neither should be able to do what they do.

So either we are consistent and say yes, both characters can do what they do, or we are consistent and say both are plot devices.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
😂

That's not what Squall meant.

Wolverine gets a free pass because.,..why? Ok, he has the claws, but he doesn't have the speed feats Batman has. He has a HF, sure, but Batman has durability feats (hello WW!) as well.

They're both comic characters , logically neither should be able to do what they do.

So either we are consistent and say yes, both characters can do what they do, or we are consistent and say both are plot devices.

Carver understood, he’s just playing dumb because he can’t refute the point.

My point went right along with your question. Without Wolverine abilities, Batman can not beat either Orion or Hulk or Colossus or...

Give him a one hit kill weapon and take away Hulks healing factor, he can kill Hulk. This is simple and it should be understandable. So no, Batman can't beat Hulk or Orion unless he is stacking adamantium claws and a healing factor.

Originally posted by carver9
My point went right along with your question. Without Wolverine abilities, Batman can not beat either Orion or Hulk or Colossus or...

Give him a one hit kill weapon and take away Hulks healing factor, he can kill Hulk. This is simple and it should be understandable. So no, Batman can't beat Hulk or Orion unless he is stacking adamantium claws and a healing factor.

Funny, I don’t remember Bruce having a healing factor when Diana slammed him to the ground at supersonic speed.

But Bruce did beat the crap out of Hulk though. And I remember Hulk had a healing factor then.

Don't know why you keep mentioning Diana vs Batman, lol. I also don't know why you keep mentioning non-canon Batman vs Hulk. Why is Batman even mentioned in this thread? If you think Batman can beat Hulk and Orion at the same time, then, that is you. I just don't think that.

Originally posted by carver9
I made this thread because I think these 3 stand a chance. Wolverine consistently fight high end bricks and have hurt them to a point that an argument can be made. This thread went pages because people felt the same way. I added Sabertooth with adamantium because he's near identical to Wolverine. Spiderman is here, not because of his physical stats but more so his webbing. Yes, Orion is strong and fast but he is fighting people with one shot kill weapons and Orion doesn't have a healing factor that I know of that can deal with the damage from adamantium claws. Yes, speed fts were posted but I'm not the only one arguing against those showings. They are just not enough. You can put these 3 against any brick. If you don't have a healing factor to counter the adamantium claws from Wolverine and Sabes (along with Spiderman webbing), they would lose.

You not knowing Orion has a healing factor (which he does), proves my point.

Originally posted by Philosophía
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He legit posted duck-lips photos in dirty bathrooms to impress Sin. Forum was full of them a while back. His race has nothing to do with it.

But ok.

That's why I said "at first glance". **** sake Carver.

Yeah....Sin was as... impressed as you would imagine. It was hilarious.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You not knowing Orion has a healing factor (which he does), proves my point.

That's why I said "at first glance". **** sake Carver.

His motherbox help him heal.

I didn't post a picture of my lips. I posted a pic of me and he carved out my lips like a weirdo and continuously post it around KMC, again, like a weirdo. Who does that? I've never saved a man lips on my computer.

Originally posted by carver9
His motherbox help him heal.

I didn't post a picture of my lips. I posted a pic of me and he carved out my lips like a weirdo and continuously post it around KMC, again, like a weirdo. Who does that? I've never saved a man lips on my computer.

Lmao.

He also has a HF.

https://imgur.com/a/lqQFEeK

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah....Sin was as... impressed as you would imagine. It was hilarious.

😂

Originally posted by carver9
His motherbox help him heal.

I didn't post a picture of my lips. I posted a pic of me and he carved out my lips like a weirdo and continuously post it around KMC, again, like a weirdo. Who does that? I've never saved a man lips on my computer.

The motherbox can heal him better than he heals himself, but he still has a healing factor of his own. Stated in both comics and in bios.

Even a casual google search would have told you this.

Also, I'm not sure I believe you about the picture thing.