Captain America vs Buffy

Originally posted by Riot-Gear
Is this an actual rule? I don't post on this forum all that often so maybe I missed a rule change/update, but I don't remember this being part of the rules.

It's been the rule for as long as I have been active in this subforum. And I can understand why. Otherwise, people start trying to bring one-off/special scenario weapons, vehicles and all other kinds of things into the fight. And then it becomes more an argument of who is allowed what than what they'd actually do with it. And gearing up for a specific fight can also be regarded as "prep", which is a different type of match as well. So, as far as I know, when nothing specific is stated, combatants have the standard gear they normally carry into a fight.

Originally posted by NemeBro
What an impotent phuck nigga response lol.

Riot-Gear just disemboweled you and ripped your pecker off with your own entrails, and you respond with this weak shit?

Try again, because Riot-Gear is winning this thread's debate in two posts.

TBH, I'm not sure who'd win the majority but I'm leaning towards Buffy.

Originally posted by NemeBro
What an impotent phuck nigga response lol.

Riot-Gear just disemboweled you and ripped your pecker off with your own entrails, and you respond with this weak shit?

Try again, because Riot-Gear is winning this thread's debate in two posts.

I will when I'm on a computer. Can't be arsed responding point by point on my phone.

But my response will suffice for now, because hes not presented any feats that come even close. I've seen all episodes of Buffy and Angel and they don't have close to the strength, speed or agility that Cap displays on a regular basis. Their average showings are pretty weak source and they have been KO'd and restrained pretty easily on multiple occasions.

I mean he brought up Angel pushing a dumpster.. Really? Does that even deserve a response? Have any of you guys actually seen the Cap films?

I suggest if he wants me to give him a more serious response that he starts showing clips of anything that even comes close to things like casually carrying 3 women on a motorbike over his head for an extended period (not even close to his best feat).

Right Riot-Gear, since I'm not gonna fall for your speculative made up measurements for Buffy's strength, I'm gonna simply ask you to post me a video of Buffy showing physicals anywhere close to this level:

https://youtu.be/jC7U8C2X1Uw

At 3:00 Cap jumps out of a Skyscraper, and at 3:54 he jumps onto and around a hellicarrier.

Your turn.

And I can assure everyone anything he posts will seem laughable by comparison.

There is an incredible irony when Darth Thor offhandedly dismisses the actually impressive feats Riot-Gear posts and then tries to hype falling at terminal velocity (and having to absorb most of the impact with his shield lmao) as a feat beyond Buffy, as well as leaping a few meters with the assist of a motorcycle.

Darth Thor is doing the typical dumb guy thing where because Cap's special effects are better, he must be more powerful. Buffy's feats are less visually bombastic, so they're worse, even if apparently they are objectively around par with Cap's.

Oh yeah let's put it all down to special effects limitations of a Tv show. And yet completely ignore that no one is doubting Cap's physicals are no match for Supergirl's or Smallvile Clark's (also Tv shows).

I get that you're impressed by Riot Gear's h1a8 type speculative calculations, but until he posts a client of something even close to as impressive as a little taste of what I've given of Cap's physicals, I don't see why I need to waste my time addressing his calculations one by one.

And Lol at him only leaping with help from his Shield and Motorbike. Like I've already pointed out, these are pretty consistent feats for Cap if you just watch the damn movies. But hey Angel pushed a dumpster!

Now someone post a physical feat from Buffy. Otherwise I expect baseless estimations and calculations to be her only case.

"Dude I'm going to name drop h1 because I think it helps my non-argument" lmao.

Riot-Gear's only particularly notable flaw is that he hasn't cited the sources or shown the math for his claims (such as the required psi for bending prison bars). He has still however made a case for physical parity, unlike you who is just constantly harping that Cap is superior without providing any quantification for his feats compared to Buffy's as evidence, and no quantifying feats isn't bad and you're a mouth-breathing retard if you believe it is. Otherwise we'd have no metrics to compare characters by and just support who we feel should win. And feelings are for girls and phags.

No, he's made a case for her having superhuman strength, it's only his opinion that they are on par with each other.

It's not his opinion on whether or not Captain America's helicopter feat is less impressive than Buffy bending prison bars with her bare hands, he's either right about it or he's wrong. Opinion doesn't factor into it at all, don't be a retard. I'm going to wait for Riot-Gear to provide his evidence for the claims of their relative strength levels, but to offhandedly dismiss the claims with no evidence of your own (like DT is doing) is super gay. 👇

Riot-Gear at least has provided values for Buffy and Cap's strength levels. DT hasn't done that. So Riot-Gear is winning the debate. Easily, in fact.

It's funny how you say things like don't be a retard and then admit that riot gear hasn't actually provided any proof as of yet. Last I checked, statements with no evidence to back them up are generally referred to as opinions.

Well here I was reading all three pages looking to give a real answer and stuff but another thread has devolved into trolling...

Cap wins more so because of his skills than a stat bonus, Buffy is super strong but I wouldn't put her near Ironman and Cap was beating Tony H2H until Tony's super computer kicked in to fight for him. The only real argument I can see for her winning is Cap holding back which is in character imo but kinda defeats the purpose of this battle.

I wouldnt discount Buffys fighting skills personally, shes been training for most of her teenage/young adult life, and was capable of catching an incoming knife aimed at her head before she had any training at all (due to her inherit Slayer skills, which she didnt even know she had). Shes got world class fighting skills, whos well versed in fighting super powered foes (alot of them stronger than she is), that with her superhuman stats, makes her a nice match for Cap (though his equipment and weaponry do put him over the top here).

Are we allowed to actually include stuff from later seasons of Buffy though? Because this is Cap vs 16 year old Buffy. She got better season by season right? Doesn't this mean we can only include feats from season 1, 2 and maybe 3? The feats she has in later seasons she wouldn't have been 16 so can they be included? Just sayin' 😬

Oh well if Buffy is stuck as Season 1 here (when she was 16), and Cap gets all of his films, then he slaughters her here. And yes, Buffy definitey got more powerful and skilled, fighting stronger Big Bads, as the seasons went on.

OP says 16 year old Buffy, dem's da rules

Well then this whole thing is a one sided slaughter until he amends it to Season 7 Buffy, I guess.

Originally posted by NemeBro
It's not his opinion on whether or not Captain America's helicopter feat is less impressive than Buffy bending prison bars with her bare hands, he's either right about it or he's wrong. Opinion doesn't factor into it at all, don't be a retard. I'm going to wait for Riot-Gear to provide his evidence for the claims of their relative strength levels, but to offhandedly dismiss the claims with no evidence of your own (like DT is doing) is super gay. 👇

Riot-Gear at least has provided values for Buffy and Cap's strength levels. DT hasn't done that. So Riot-Gear is winning the debate. Easily, in fact.

Lol you provide "values" when there is a level of parity. There isn't here until someone posts a clip of Buffy displaying the kind of physical level Cap is at in the clip I posted.

FYI Cap bent steel bars pretty easily in Cap1, right before he leaps further than Buffy is capable.

So again, riot-gear has nothing. Just trolling with estimations and numbers which impresses fools like you.

But wait.. Angel pushed a dumpster 😂

What does Angel have to do with this fight? It's vs Buffy, is she dumpster pushing as well?

Originally posted by steverules_2
What does Angel have to do with this fight? It's vs Buffy, is she dumpster pushing as well?

Powerscaling. He said Angel pushes dumpsters and Buffy is stronger than him. Don't recall any particular scene and no ones posted any video clips for them.

I have to agree there isn't a massive durability gap, when it comes to blunt force trauma Buffy/Slayers can take a lot of punishment. Just look at when Faith escapes prison.