Originally posted by Darth Thor
Powerscaling. He said Angel pushes dumpsters and Buffy is stronger than him. Don't recall any particular scene and no ones posted any video clips for them.
I don't recall the specific scene, but overall it wouldn't shock me if Angel had such a feat.
Also either the guy can teleport or he has the power to open and close car doors without making a sound.
Originally posted by Surtur
I have to agree there isn't a massive durability gap, when it comes to blunt force trauma Buffy/Slayers can take a lot of punishment. Just look at when Faith escapes prison.
Cap jumped out a plane without a parachute, what does 16 year old Buffy have that even comes close?
S1 Buffy gets KO'd by an invisible school girl. S3 Faith (almost identical physical stats to Buffy) gets put in a coma after Buffy stabs her once. S5 Buffy dies after a taking large fall. S6 Buffy gets put into hospital after taking 1 bullet.
That's just off the top of my head. I'm probably missing out tons of other examples.
Cap takes multiple bullets, multiple large story falls/jumps which he shrugs off. He also takes multiple head on blasts from Ultron and IM. Blasts which blow through metal. Heck Cap survived a plane crash into the ice!
And throughout the series Buffy, Angel and Faith get tied up/restrained pretty easily. Whereas Winter Soldier (Cap's slight superior in strength) breaks out of a top security restraints and cell.
Originally posted by KingD19
Was she injured from the fall at all?
Doesn't seem to be.
Happens about 2:15.
Clip of bullet that hospitalised Buffy:
It's hardly point blank range and it was only one bullet inside her IIRC (correct me if I'm wrong).
This is Cap taking shots from Bucky:
Starts at 2:17 last show at 2:44.
He then after taking all those shots lifts the massive beam off Bucky, then takes multiple hits in the face from Bucky's metal arm, even then is still conscious and only hospitalised After falling from the hellicarrier:
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Lol you provide "values" when there is a level of parity. There isn't here until someone posts a clip of Buffy displaying the kind of physical level Cap is at in the clip I posted.
You haven't actually provided strength feats though. mmm
It's also not necessary, his feats are widely known.
FYI Cap bent steel bars pretty easily in Cap1,
No one said she was stronger than him. I don't even think anyone said she wins. So that's nice I guess.
right before he leaps further than Buffy is capable.
I don't believe this is a jumping competition lad.
So again, riot-gear has nothing. Just trolling with estimations and numbers which impresses fools like you.
You seem oddly quick to insult someone who did nothing to insult you (Riot-Gear, not me, you're not very intelligent so I wanted to clear up any confusion for you), indicating a very real personal investment in this match and emotional vulnerability toward the idea of Cap losing. Your masculinity appears to be contingent on Captain America's success. Why is that?
But wait.. Angel pushed a dumpster 😂
Which don't always have wheels by the way.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Skip_containing_rubbish_16s06.jpg
Originally posted by Darth ThorA clip comparison is only valid with quantification. When you compare a clip of one character lifting a mountain, and another character lifting a car, the former is more impressive because the mountain is billions of tons, and the latter is like 1+ tons lad.
^ Yes which ironically Riot-Gear brought up himself, another reason I didn't believe his post deserved a point by point response.Clips comparisons first, statements and guesstimates after (if still relevant).
Originally posted by NemeBro
You haven't actually provided strength feats though. mmm
So pulling a helicopter down from flight isn't a strength feat?
Originally posted by NemeBro
It's also not necessary, his feats are widely known.
Rewetting them helps. But you're right it's clips from Buffy that are needed.
Originally posted by NemeBro
No one said she was stronger than him. I don't even think anyone said she wins. So that's nice I guess.
People were arguing they're approx on the same level in strength.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I don't believe this is a jumping competition lad.
And how do you jump exactly? Would it have anything to do with your leg strength?
Originally posted by NemeBro
You seem oddly quick to insult someone who did nothing to insult you (Riot-Gear, not me, you're not very intelligent so I wanted to clear up any confusion for you),
I'm not insulting, but when someone just throws around arbitrary numbers knowing there's no actual visual evidence to put them on the same level then I'm pretty sure they're trolling.
Originally posted by NemeBro
indicating a very real personal investment in this match and emotional vulnerability toward the idea of Cap losing. Your masculinity appears to be contingent on Captain America's success. Why is that?
Well I don't argue he beats Iron Man, Hulk or Thor (men), or Scarlet Witch, Supergirl Wonder Woman (women), so....
Originally posted by NemeBro
Which don't always have wheels by the way.https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Skip_containing_rubbish_16s06.jpg
Again i'd need to see it. How big was this dumpster, does it slide easily. I'm betting it's laughable next to Cap kicking a stationery jeep out of the way.
Originally posted by NemeBro
A clip comparison is only valid with quantification. When you compare a clip of one character lifting a mountain, and another character lifting a car, the former is more impressive because the mountain is billions of tons, and the latter is like 1+ tons lad.
Yeah that works when you compare lifting feats. But when you speculate bending certain bars is equal to punching through submarines or leaping 20/30 feet, that doesn't work because every show and every writer will have a different idea of what kind of strength bending steel bars is at.
So you have to compare jumps to jumps, bends to bends, strikes to strikes, and weight lifting to weight lifting.
Originally posted by Surtur
I have to agree there isn't a massive durability gap, when it comes to blunt force trauma Buffy/Slayers can take a lot of punishment. Just look at when Faith escapes prison.
Actually Faith escaping prison was pretty bad ass. I forgot about that. That one does compare to heights Cap has fallen:
0:24-0:34
That's some actual evidence. Nice one Surtur. You know your Buffy/Angel.
Still nothing beyond Cap, but the Slayers don't deal well with bullets and knife stabs and get KO'd/Hospitalised way too easily. And Cap takes a lot of bullet knife and energy shots, so I don't believe they're on his level.
