Captain America vs Buffy

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Nemebro being idiotic.

Bending steel bars has to be the staple showing of superhuman strength in any superpowered show/film like ever. Yet they all vary in other feats dramatically. Just accept that you jumped wagon being super impressed by the ridiculous "calculations" of a clear Cap troll, and now you're desperately trying to save face.

Having more feats where he shows his superhuman strength doesn't make him stronger if the feats don't actually outmatch Buffy's feats. And I'm not saying they don't. But you're certainly not proving they do. 🙂

Originally posted by Surtur
Though Angel has never used his speed in combat.

When fighting something that isn't as quick as he is he is usually untouchable, like when Angelus "fought" the Beast and the much slower Beast couldn't land a single punch on him (unlike Faith, he knew for a fact he stood no chance of beating him in a fist fight, and didn't let him come close). When he decapitated that infected police officer (I got bored and didn't find the episode) he speedblitzed him, appearing as a blur.

Originally posted by NemeBro
This is an extremely stupid argument friend. Angel does use his speed in combat: but he's typically fighting things as quick as he is.

When fighting something that isn't as quick as he is he is usually untouchable, like when Angelus "fought" the Beast and the much slower Beast couldn't land a single punch on him (unlike Faith, he knew for a fact he stood no chance of beating him in a fist fight, and didn't let him come close). When he decapitated that infected police officer (I got bored and didn't find the episode) he speedblitzed him, appearing as a blur.

When Team Angel fought The Beast, he tagged Angel multiple times, at one point smacking him through a concrete pillar.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I accept yours and everyone else's concessions little guy. 👆

Having more feats where he shows his superhuman strength doesn't make him stronger if the feats don't actually outmatch Buffy's feats. And I'm not saying they don't. But you're certainly not proving they do. 🙂

Except they do on almost every level as the visual evidences (and statements) clearly depict 😬

I've tirelessly shown this. You guys just stick with your arbitrary numbers over actual combat showings.

Originally posted by NemeBro
This is an extremely stupid argument friend. Angel does use his speed in combat: but he's typically fighting things as quick as he is.

When fighting something that isn't as quick as he is he is usually untouchable, like when Angelus "fought" the Beast and the much slower Beast couldn't land a single punch on him (unlike Faith, he knew for a fact he stood no chance of beating him in a fist fight, and didn't let him come close). When he decapitated that infected police officer (I got bored and didn't find the episode) he speedblitzed him, appearing as a blur.

So? Cap can run 26 miles per hours when doing long distance running. It goes without saying he can sprint much faster. We've seen him chase cars multiple times. Prove Angel is as fast. Given Buffy/Angel have never done well chasing cars.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
And this is the guy Buffy beat the shit out of. Caps not winning here.

Lol and that's supposed to be more impressive than going toe to toe with Ultron and IM?

I've proven Cap is physically superior on almost every level. The only physical asdvantage I'd give to Buffy and Angel is flexibility.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
When Team Angel fought The Beast, he tagged Angel multiple times, at one point smacking him through a concrete pillar.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
And this is the guy Buffy beat the shit out of. Caps not winning here.

Oh and we've already discussed how Angel and Spike can take way more punishment than Buffy.

Shame there arent good clips of the Buffy and Angel shows on YouTube, it would be alot easier to defend her here if we could show them off (and there are alot of them). I am in the Cap would win camp, but I also believe Buffy is being sorely underestimated here (unless this is 16 yo Buffy, then she gets stomped and this match is grossly unfair). 🙂

Per the op, it is 16 yr old Buffy. people trying to use later seasons are doing it because they can't stand the idea of their favorite losing. that or they're just trolling for the fun of it.

Not sure where this notion that there aren't many clips for Buffy on Youtube comes from. They are there for anyone who makes just a little bit of effort to look. With one quick search, I found a bunch of her fights, and even found the troll god hammer clip.

Yep, Surtur mentioned Faith escaping Prison, and I found it on youtube pretty quickly. It's just the Buffy camp is being pretty lazy. Either that or they don't want a visual comparison between her and Cap.

Originally posted by NemeBro
This is an extremely stupid argument friend. Angel does use his speed in combat: but he's typically fighting things as quick as he is.

When fighting something that isn't as quick as he is he is usually untouchable, like when Angelus "fought" the Beast and the much slower Beast couldn't land a single punch on him (unlike Faith, he knew for a fact he stood no chance of beating him in a fist fight, and didn't let him come close). When he decapitated that infected police officer (I got bored and didn't find the episode) he speedblitzed him, appearing as a blur.

I was referring to actually moving at blur speeds, and even though I remember a lot of feats I don't remember them all, I had thought only Penn did it. So if Angel did also speedblitz people that helps him out against Cap.

I mean technically...Angel should be able to beat Buffy IMO. At least in a fight going purely by feats where Angel doesn't hold back. A blitz and necksnap.

^ I think without Vampire weaknesses Angel probably would take Buffy.

And yes Penn's (Jeremy Renner btw) speed blitz is the only one I recall seeing on both shows.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Per the op, it is 16 yr old Buffy. people trying to use later seasons are doing it because they can't stand the idea of their favorite losing. that or they're just trolling for the fun of it.

Angel does the Flash Step and split second vanishing (he's there one minute, the person turns around and he's long gone) throughout the show.

That's not really saying much, seeing as there are human action movie/tv stars who have done that before.

Buffy was one of the original holders of the vagforce, once Angel got his own show he had feats consistently better than hers, but whenever they met he conveniently forgets that he's been fighting for 15x longer than Buffy has been alive and has feats of speed that Buffy would barely be able to perceive.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
Honestly, I think the OP was just being careless in his description of her. I doubt thats what he meant. Obviously if it's season 1 Buffy before all her good feats and at her weakest, she loses. If not, things go drastically different here.

Even if he was being careless, it's too late to change it. Per forum rules. It's to late to 'clarify'.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Angel does the Flash Step and split second vanishing (he's there one minute, the person turns around and he's long gone) throughout the show.

This is true, I just didn't recall him doing it in combat. The dude can exit a car in the blink of an eye without anyone even hearing the door open or close.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Even if he was being careless, it's too late to change it. Per forum rules. It's to late to 'clarify'.

True, I would guess it's just that Buffy with all her tv feats is a much more interesting fight.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Even if he was being careless, it's too late to change it. Per forum rules. It's to late to 'clarify'.