Well here is my thing with Faith, I looked up the clip too and..the fall she survives, Wesley also survives though..but yeah it is a cool sequence. I had thought that she cushioned his fall with her body, but watching it again she doesn't.
Though you would have to think that glass in the prison she breaks through in the meeting room is probably bullet proof? Or maybe not.
Originally posted by Surtur
Well here is my thing with Faith, I looked up the clip too and..the fall she survives, Wesley also survives though..but yeah it is a cool sequence. I had thought that she cushioned his fall with her body, but watching it again she doesn't.Though you would have to think that glass in the prison she breaks through in the meeting room is probably bullet proof? Or maybe not.
Yeah agreed breaking the prison glass is probably more impressive because of Wesley getting up from that fall.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
So pulling a helicopter down from flight isn't a strength feat?
Surtur brought that one up. Why are you trying to take credit for his posts? 😬
Rewetting them helps. But you're right it's clips from Buffy that are needed.
Don't hold your breath. Captain America's entire feat catalog is probably on youtube. Buffy's isn't even close to being. Getting an episode number isn't unreasonable though. 👆
People were arguing they're approx on the same level in strength.
And you decide to refute that with... a feat that is comparable to hers. Wow. Good one. 👆
And how do you jump exactly? Would it have anything to do with your leg strength?
Remember the leg strength thing, I'll be coming back to it later.
I'm not insulting, but when someone just throws around arbitrary numbers
Why is quantifying how impressive the feats actually are arbitrary? He actually assigned a number to how impressive Captain America's helicopter feat is, whereas everyone else just said it's better than any of Buffy's feats... why? Because she hasn't replicated the exact same feat? It's idiotic, and you should kill yourself. 👆
knowing there's no actual visual evidence
If Buffy visually bends steel prison bars and holds up a gate that is between 2-10 tons (I think is what he said), how is there no visual evidence?
Are you saying that we shouldn't put a value on the gate feat because "lul the writer wasn't doing the math when he wrote it"? That's retarded friend. Author intent does not matter, it's immaterial and changing. What matters is what we see onscreen.
to put them on the same level then I'm pretty sure they're trolling.
Alternatively, maybe you're just not very smart? 👆
Well I don't argue he beats Iron Man, Hulk or Thor (men), or Scarlet Witch, Supergirl Wonder Woman (women), so....
How do I know that's true? Maybe you're only saying that now because you know how people would perceive you if you claimed as much, and that's an even more devastating blow to your fragile ego? mmm
Again i'd need to see it. How big was this dumpster, does it slide easily. I'm betting it's laughable next to Cap kicking a stationery jeep out of the way.
I'm guessing it probably isn't particularly impressive no, but it is funny and sad that you're continuing to attack the least impressive feat named. 👆
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah that works when you compare lifting feats. But when you speculate bending certain bars is equal to punching through submarines or leaping 20/30 feet, that doesn't work because every show and every writer will have a different idea of what kind of strength bending steel bars is at.
This is idiotic friend.
It's not speculation. If bending a steel bar is as impressive or more than punching through the glass of a submarine, then it is. I do not give a shit about what the author intended. When they wrote Buffy bending prison bars, they wrote her as being able to exert apparently 3,600 psi with her bare hands. 👆
So you have to compare jumps to jumps, bends to bends, strikes to strikes, and weight lifting to weight lifting.
Oooh this is fun, let me try.
Angel, when cutting loose on a human police officer (a possessed/infected one, albeit), literally took his head off with a single kick. Decapitated him effortlessly. Buffy, by every account, is stronger than Spike is. When Cap fights normal people with punches and kicks, even that leaping downward roundhouse on GSP, he doesn't dismember them. So it seems that Angel and Buffy hit harder than Cap does. 👆
Not sure which episode of Angel this was in, looking for it now.
Nemebro being idiotic.
Bending steel bars has to be the staple showing of superhuman strength in any superpowered show/film like ever. Yet they all vary in other feats dramatically. Just accept that you jumped wagon being super impressed by the ridiculous "calculations" of a clear Cap troll, and now you're desperately trying to save face.
Originally posted by NemeBro
See, but other writers might have different ideas of how durable metal robots are, so because when Cap fights humans he doesn't dismember them, he's much weaker than Angel, much less Buffy. 👆
Actually Angel probably has a vastly better chance at taking on Cap than Buffy. Just because of his damage soak and also if you take into account his speed/teleportation/whatever the f*ck he does to get around so quickly.
Though Angel has never used his speed in combat. We have seen a total of I believe one vampire kinda do that(Penn, a vamp Angel created).
^ Again Surtur shows he knows his Buffy Angel.
Vampires in general in the Buffyverse can take crazy amounts of physical punishment (ridiculously high falls and all sorts of bullet shots), because Vampires can only be killed in specific ways.
Although the PIS part to the show was Vampires would hardly ever used guns. If they did Vampire slayers wouldn't last very long.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Although the PIS part to the show was Vampires would hardly ever used guns. If they did Vampire slayers wouldn't last very long.
I actually kind of wonder why almost no one in the Buffyverse ever thought of making a stake-gun, like in the From Dusk Till Dawn TV series. IIRC, Connor actually had one, but no one else considered the idea.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Darla disabled Angel with a pistol, once.
The power levels do fluctuate, but vamps like Angel and Spike who appear a lot just seem to be more powerful than other vampires. For instance, there is an episode where Angel takes on several trained mercenaries and he gets shot with a shotgun and keeps going and kills them all.