Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Provide evidence.
I'd first like to see what makes you think Tyth murders Vader.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
The Outlander could not stop Tyth singlehandedly. This should be sufficient hint for any sane individual here.
So somebody inferior to Vader couldn't stop Tyth? What does that even prove?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
By virtue of power-scaling alone, Tyth murders Darth Vader
Not at all, lol. What kind of powerscaling does Tyth even have other than "hurr, better then Outlander!"?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Palpatine's supremacy is implied in outdated sources mostly. Sorry but you don't gave a convincing argument either.Your essay is filled with comical misinterpretations and overreachings.
Sources from 2014 and 2015 aren't outdated, lmao. But I imagine this'll fall on deaf ears.
Anyway, where is the response to mah essay? I imagine it'll be lot more comical than the essay itself 😂
Originally posted by MythLord
I'd first like to see what makes you think Tyth murders Vader.So somebody inferior to Vader couldn't stop Tyth? What does that even prove?
Not at all, lol. What kind of powerscaling does Tyth even have other than "hurr, better then Outlander!"?
Someboy who is above all incarnations of Revan and a match for Vaylin (unchained) is inferior to Darth Vader? You can't be this stupid.
See above.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Palpatine can drain twenty billion individuals, mentally subjugate as many people, and bury 19km-long capital ships, to say nothing of his ability to devastate entire fleets or worlds with his Wormholes.None of that is beyond Palpatine in the slightest.
No matter how capable Palpatine had been with Force abilities, you cannot overlook his conventional limitations. He won't make it out alive from a capital bombardment for example. Don't be foolish.
Tyth had conventional abilities to exterminate an incredibly advanced civilization. This is incredible.
And yet you're comparing Tyth's endurance capabilities to Palpatine's despite them existing in entirely different metrics, kek.
Izak is a well build droid, great, Palpatine should still be able to absorb capital ship fire with a Force barrier and wreck Izak with his lightning. And in terms of overall capabilities, he possesses powers that Izak isn't even capable of and could ruin him in a dozen different ways.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Tyth is not a Force-user so we cannot objectively compare Tyth to Palpatine like that.No matter how capable Palpatine had been with Force abilities, you cannot overlook his conventional limitations. He won't make it out alive from a capital bombardment for example. Don't be foolish.
As a child, Zannah was able to erect Barriers that shielded her against the Thought Bomb. Palpatine is factually close to a millennium's worth superior to her by TPM alone, before undergoing several drastic increases in power through to DE. It's hardly a foolish notion in the slightest. In fact, it's a perfectly reasonable claim.
I'll remind you as well of Kressh's Gauntlet, which allowed someone who was merely holding it (not even wearing it) to survive orbital bombardment.
Besides, I hope you don't need me to tell you of the double standards in excusing unfavourable comparisons to Tyth on the basis of not being a Force user, but readily making comparisons to Palpatine whenever you consider it a favourable comparison. Unless I'm mistaken, Tyth is a super-droid, and Palpatine is a human augmented by the Force. You seem to want to compare their durability in "conventional" manners? lol
Originally posted by Beniboybling
And yet you're comparing Tyth's endurance capabilities to Palpatine's despite them existing in entirely different metrics, kek.Izak is a well build droid, great, Palpatine should still be able to absorb capital ship fire with a Force barrier and wreck Izak with his lightning. And in terms of overall capabilities, he possesses powers that Izak isn't even capable of and could ruin him in a dozen different ways. [/B]
Classic overrreaching there. Provide evidence of Palpatine tanking capital bombardment (not just words).
These droids might be invincible to a wide range of Force powers. They are literally superweapons. Try better.
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For that matter, a mere 22BBY Anakin could block the powers of the Dark Reaper (which could drain entire armies) for a time. And even the likes of Dooku were far above Anakin then, to say nothing of the likes of Palpatine who could place Dooku in a telekinetic stranglehold holographically. Then we factor in Palpatine's enormous growths up to DE, and it's perfectly reasonable for his powers to be capable of allowing him to survive orbital bombardment.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDIzak hasn't done anything to suggest he could withstand Palpatine's powers. 😂
I don't want to.Classic overrreaching there. Provide evidence of Palpatine tanking capital bombardment (not just words).
These droids might be invincible to a wide range of Force powers. They are literally superweapons. Try better.
The Malachor superweapon exterminated Force-wielding armies, but Vader survived it. The Emperor is above that.
Not to mention that planet-wiping powers are well within the domain of TPM Palpatine alone, never mind DE Palpatine. Logically, he can protect himself from powers of that calibre also.
And again, Zannah as a child could erect Barriers that kept her safe from the Thought Bomb, which would easily replicate Tyth's feat of eradicating a civilization. Palpatine is a millennium's worth of advancements in power over her in her prime by TPM alone.
Originally posted by SunRazer
The Malachor superweapon exterminated Force-wielding armies, but Vader survived it. Not to mention that planet-wiping powers are within the domain of TPM Palpatine alone, never mind DE Palpatine. Logically, he can protect himself from powers of that calibre also.
I am coming towards the Darth Zannah part.
Originally posted by SunRazerDid Anakin not also shield a settlement against a radioactive storm?
👆For that matter, a mere 22BBY Anakin could block the powers of the Dark Reaper (which could drain entire armies) for a time. And even the likes of Dooku were far above Anakin then, to say nothing of the likes of Palpatine who could place Dooku in a telekinetic stranglehold holographically. Then we factor in Palpatine's enormous growths up to DE, and it's perfectly reasonable for his powers to be capable of allowing him to survive orbital bombardment.
But yeah this isn't really relevant as Izak achieved this through his armouring, it has no bearing on the actual power he possesses.
There were no circumstances; at least none that wouldn't be applicable here, lol.
More to the point, the idea of this thread is not that Valkorion has an identical power to Tyth, but that he can produce effects of the sort. Hence, Vader being able to resist effects of the sort is adequate, whether it's X or Y or Z. 😂
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDWhat false equivalence is this? The ability to wreck civilisations doesn't mean he can kill Sheev. 😂
🙄These superweapons can exterminate advanced civilizations but they cannot kill Palpatine. Keep overreaching.
Regardless you didn't respond to my point, there is no evidence that Izak can withstand Palpatine's powers. 👆
Originally posted by SunRazer
There were no circumstances; at least none that wouldn't be applicable here, lol.More to the point, the idea of this thread is not that Valkorion has an identical power to Tyth, but that he can produce effects of the sort. Hence, Vader being able to resist effects of the sort is adequate, whether it's X or Y or Z. 😂
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Yet Darth Vader cannot tank a lightsaber. Your overreaching is as desperate as it is amusing. 👆
Vader deflects a lightsaber barehanded in Dark Lord. Citing him being hit without his defenses up is obvious; not even Valkorion could tank a lightsaber as we see with the Outlander's blade running through him. Although Vader has been able to endure repeated lightsaber blows without succumbing, which is more than I can say for Valkorion.
And get this: Valkorion dies to mere blaster shots if you're a non-Force using class. And Vader has indeed tanked blaster fire and near-enough shrugged it off. Palaptine has shrugged it off completely. So again, where are you heading with the comparisons?