New (sketchy) Valkorion scaling

Started by SunRazer8 pages

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Every character has weaknesses/conventional limitations. Valkorion addressed this issue by discovering ways to cheat death.

Valid point. He may also have the ability to infilitrate a target and sabotage it from within. His incredible conventional defenses not withstanding. He might have deflected energy beams of Izax back towards it. Who knows?

Palpatine's robes might have offered protection? Ever thought like this?

Valkorion is noted for destroying Izax. Entire Empire of Zakuul was aware. We have a tangible showing here.

Palpatine spent 5 years on Byss, consolidating his powers before making his move. I am not questioning his wisdom to create armies. However, if you can discipline the rebels singlehandedly, you set an example. You don't just rely on conventional stuff to do your bidding.

Point is that their might be realistic limitations to what Palpatine can achieve on the ground. He conjured a Force Storm to wipe out a fleet. However, it may not be practical for him to conjure that power on the ground where he is present. It might also take time to destroy a world.

Valkorion's Consume Storm was really practical for the battlefield on the otherhand. It swiftly exterminated everybody on the planet.

The bias cannot be more real. Valkorion can deflect superweapon beams back at themselves but Palpatine can't even tank a blaster bolt without it being his cloak that's protecting him. 😂

**** off, will you?

Nadd can use Force storms? Source?

Originally posted by S W LeGenD
S_W_LeGenDMe makes a good point about Force Storms, such as Freedon Nadd, could also use them

Eh? When has he ever?

It's that entry in the TotJ sourcebook again.

I thought this was common knowledge?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
😆

Some robes offer protection against various external threats. It doesn't have to be a heavy (bulky) body armor. Star Wars, my friend. 👆

Originally posted by SunRazer
The bias cannot be more real. Valkorion can deflect superweapon beams back at themselves but Palpatine can't even tank a blaster bolt without it being his cloak that's protecting him. 😂

**** off, will you?


Please don't talk about bias after the kind of arguments you put forth.

Concession accepted. 👆

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Some robes offer protection against various external threats. It doesn't have to be a heavy (bulky) body armor. Star Wars, my friend. 👆
Are you trolling or actually this much of a clown? 😱

Originally posted by S W LeGenD
I thought this was common knowledge?
Sounds like fanon, tbh.

Originally posted by S W LeGenD
I thought this was common knowledge?

Don't follow Force Users(the more common ones talked about for the most part anyway), find it a waste of time tbh.

Originally posted by S W LeGenD
Nothing else Sidious has done is that impressive in the grand scheme of things imo.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t641234.html

Educate yourself on Sheev before making such ridiculous claims.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Sounds like fanon, tbh.

Eh, I looked through the Companion. Says Nadd does know all the Force Powers listed in the book, which does include Force Storms.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Nadd can use Force storms? Source?

It comes from the TotJ companion claiming Nadd has knowledge of every ability in the book, which includes Force Storms.

EDIT: Ninja'd.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Where did Tyth tank turbolaser fire in the cutscene? From what I'm watching, he was shot to the ground. Unless you mean after that.

Though I dunno about 13 cruisers firing upon him, looks like only 1 did it.

https://youtu.be/rcOazvXj7_w?t=213


Actually, it was the entire Eternal Fleet. The cutscene doesn't visibly show it, but the Hero orders his entire fleet to Iokath, and then later orders them to fire on Tyth.

Tyth surviving bombardment from the largest fleet in history to that time is ****ing insane.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Please don't talk about bias after the kind of arguments you put forth.

Concession accepted. 👆

No, I can talk. You're unwilling to let Palpatine one-up Valkorion on anything. If he tanks the blaster bolt it's the cloak protecting him. 😂

Now do you have any evidence for that or is this more speculation that you want me to accept for the sake of it?

Let me tell you something - right now, you're letting me down harder than Rapunzel lets down her ****ing hair. Stop speculating, and get a grip on some legitimate arguments. And where's the quote/scan for Palpatine being in bacta post-RotS for a Sith spirit attack?

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Eh, I looked through the Companion. Says Nadd does know all the Force Powers listed in the book, which does include Force Storms.
Ah fair enough.

Originally posted by darthbane77
But it is stated, iirc, that he did manage to defeat all of the superweapons, which would include Izax. So either way, he's >Izax.

Where is that stated?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Are you trolling or actually this much of a clown? 😱

Robes can be reinforced with lightweight armored plates. Try better. 👆

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi_armor

Proof that Palpatine wore that armor, though... Also, you do realize said armor is still capable of being pierced by blaster bolts, right?

How much of a thick-headed reprobate can you be?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Robes can be reinforced with lightweight armored plates. Try better. 👆

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi_armor

You're not catching on, are you? The fact that robes can be reinforced with lightweight armored plates means nothing. Prove that Sidious' cloak is factually reinforced by armouring, or else you're speculating aimlessly.