Supergirl Vs General Zod

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes tbey can use it in a fight, unless of course all their fights show them not using it to the degree you're implying, then whatever is shown in feats trumps whatever theory you came up with.

Whatever feat is best (fighting or non fighting) is the one we go with.
For instance, if a character has the capability of moving and reacting faster than the speed of sound but, due to plot, the writer has them without that ability in fighting scenes then they have the ability in a forum fight since there is no plot to stop them.

SG, and all krpytonians universally (from all media) have class 100 strength and supersonic speed. No feats are needed.

Finally
Characters power levels fluctuate from scene to scene.
Everyone here has used character's non fighting feats (that contradicts their fighting scenes) to support their forum representative (even Thor).
We got Thor surviving Bifrost, helping to destroy the flying landmass, etc.

Originally posted by h1a8
Whatever feat is best (fighting or non fighting) is the one we go with.
For instance, if a character has the capability of moving and reacting faster than the speed of sound but, due to plot, the writer has them without that ability in fighting scenes then they have the ability in a forum fight since there is no plot to stop them.

SG, and all krpytonians universally (from all media) have class 100 strength and supersonic speed. No feats are needed.

Finally
Characters power levels fluctuate from scene to scene.
Everyone here has used character's non fighting feats (that contradicts their fighting scenes) to support their forum representative (even Thor).
We got Thor surviving Bifrost, helping to destroy the flying landmass, etc.

Where in the rules does it say that we ignore all fighting feats in favor of one off high-end feats?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Where in the rules does it say that we ignore all fighting feats in favor of one off high-end feats?

Where does it say that we do not?
Everyone here argues high end one offs, two offs, etc.
Everyone here!

Originally posted by h1a8

For example
If a character is shown to be faster than sound and is a 100 tonner in strength and durability then we don't need fighting showings to prove that they can beat Cap in a forum fight. They can easily beat Cap with absolutely no fighting showings.

If we'd never seen them in a fight then your assumption that he trounced Cap would be a reasonable one. But if when he fights he consistently struggles to beat normal non-powered humans, then clearly Cap would have the superior combat feats which would be relevant to a forum fight.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
If we'd never seen them in a fight then your assumption that he trounced Cap would be a reasonable one. But if when he fights he consistently struggles to beat normal non-powered humans, then clearly Cap would have the superior combat feats which would be relevant to a forum fight.

Many characters have non combat feats that contradict their fighting feats. But everyone here uses them anyway.

If a character can lift a million tons easily in a scene then it is asinine to believe that they won't have that capability in a forum fight.

Originally posted by h1a8
Where does it say that we do not?
Everyone here argues high end one offs, two offs, etc.
Everyone here!

Again, post the rule that says we ignore all fighting feats in favor of one off high-end feats.

Originally posted by h1a8
Where does it say that we do not?
Everyone here argues high end one offs, two offs, etc.
Everyone here!

No, people here include high-end showings, but also factor their other showings into arguments. They don't just take high-end one-offs and completely ignore everything else. The only time people dismiss certain feats (high or low) is when it wildly contradicts other showings. Like the Luke Cage shotgun KO, because it literally makes zero sense in light of all his other durability showings, as well as the actual explanation of his powers. Or the Captain America bulldozer push, which I have mentioned before is extremely suspect, and am highly reluctant to use, because it contradicts multiple movie showings.

Or like I pointed out in another thread. Iron Fist and Daredevil have speed/reaction feats that suggest no-one without some degree of superspeed should be able to tag them. But they have been tagged by regular highly skilled humans during onscreen fights, so we assume that they can be tagged by skilled enough humans in forum fights as well.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
No, people here include high-end showings, but also factor their other showings into arguments. They don't just take high-end one-offs and completely ignore everything else. The only time people dismiss certain feats (high or low) is when it wildly contradicts other showings. Like the Luke Cage shotgun KO, because it literally makes zero sense in light of all his other durability showings, as well as the actual explanation of his powers. Or the Captain America bulldozer push, which I have mentioned before is extremely suspect, and am highly reluctant to use, because it contradicts multiple movie showings.

Or like I pointed out in another thread. Iron Fist and Daredevil have speed/reaction feats that suggest no-one without some degree of superspeed should be able to tag them. But they have been tagged by regular highly skilled humans during onscreen fights, so we assume that they can be tagged by skilled enough humans in forum fights as well.

Stop lying. Everyone here only mentions the highest showings for the character they want to win. I never seen a Thor supporter mentioned any low showings. Low showings are mentioned by the opposing side. This is called low balling.

Daredevil has no feats to suggest he can't get hit by a peak human punch or greater. It is harder defending against a 70mph attack from 3ft than a 200 mph attack from 30ft or more.

Originally posted by h1a8
Stop lying. Everyone here only mentions the highest showings for the character they want to win. I never seen a Thor supporter mentioned any low showings. Low showings are mentioned by the opposing side. This is called low balling.

Daredevil has no feats to suggest he can't get hit by a peak human punch or greater. It is harder defending against a 70mph attack from 3ft than a 200 mph attack from 30ft or more.

This is a lie and I can easily post links to me and others mentioning things for Thor, Cap and the Hulk that aren't high end feats.

Originally posted by Silent Master
This is a lie and I can easily post links to me and others mentioning things for Thor, Cap and the Hulk that aren't high end feats.

Originally posted by h1a8
Please do so. Show me in a thread where you wanted Thor to win where you mentioned his low showings to help obtain a basis for his forum level.

If I do post links where I've mentioned non-high end feats, do you agree to admit that you're a liar? as you posted in several of the threads I'll be linking too.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If I do post links where I've mentioned non-high end feats, do you agree to admit that you're a liar? as you posted in several of the threads I'll be linking too.

I'll admit I'm wrong. Lying requires "on purpose trying to deceive ". This should be good though.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'll admit I'm wrong. Lying requires "on purpose trying to deceive ". This should be good though.

You've been told by multiple people in multiple threads that we don't rely on high-end only and a quick look at other threads would have shown this. yet you choose to call everyone else liars instead of doing 10 seconds of research.

So no, I want you to admit to being the liar you accused us of being.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You've been told by multiple people in multiple threads that we don't rely on high-end only and a quick look at other threads would have shown this. yet you choose to call everyone else liars instead of doing 10 seconds of research.

So no, I want you to admit to being the liar you accused us of being.

I don't see you posting anything where someone mentions a low showing for the character they are debating for.
What happened? And the challenge was for you remember. Show me one of your posts.

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't see you posting anything where someone mentions a low showing for the character they are debating for.
What happened?

Your claim was that we use only high-end, therefore I'd only have to show us mentioning average showing in order to prove your claim a lie.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Your claim was that we use only high-end, therefore I'd only have to show us mentioning average showing in order to prove your claim a lie.

Originally posted by h1a8
Your idea of average could be a high end showing. Don't get me wrong. Multiple feats are mentioned. But only the highest is mentioned for the character who you want to win.

I see, IOW if I post links where non high-end feats are mentioned you're just going to label them as high-end and claim victory.

As an example, all of Cap's feats have been mentioned in debates. From Cap sending people flying to his throwing a motorcycle or stopping a helicopter and you know it.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I see, IOW if I post links where non high-end feats are mentioned you're just going to label them as high-end and claim victory.

As an example, all of Cap's feats have been mentioned in debates. From Cap sending people flying to his throwing a motorcycle or stopping a helicopter and you know it.

Here is me mentioning Cap sending me flying with hits

Originally posted by Silent Master
Seriously, the only reason normal humans have ever given Cap trouble is because he's trying not to hurt them, I mean he was sending fully armored people flying with hits in his first movie. if he had hit the people in the elevator that hard they would have been sent flying to their death.

Originally posted by h1a8
Stop lying. Everyone here only mentions the highest showings for the character they want to win. I never seen a Thor supporter mentioned any low showings. Low showings are mentioned by the opposing side. This is called low balling.

Daredevil has no feats to suggest he can't get hit by a peak human punch or greater. It is harder defending against a 70mph attack from 3ft than a 200 mph attack from 30ft or more.

Not lying at all. Claiming that everyone just uses one-off non-combat feats, while ignoring multiple combat feats inconsistent with it, is the lie here. There are plenty of examples in threads of people factoring in a combination of multiple fighting and non-fighting feats (not just a few non-combat high-ends) to argue threads. Also, what low showings for Thor are you referring to exactly? In what instances did he notably under-perform compared to his usual levels?

Your statements about arrow distances (because he has defended against multiple at this point) makes me question whether you have watched the show. And where exactly is your 70mph number coming from? The fastest human punch I am aware of is by Keith Liddel, which was registered at 45mph. I also notice how you completely ignore Iron Fist.