Batman & Captain America vs Hercules

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I conceed he's wrong about the last paragraph.

Carver and Abhi's entire posting career's are lowball/highball.

Facee Duck Butt Donaldo

If Herc gets any of them in that choke hold he held Thor in its over.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And the Manhattan pulling feat was revealed to be BS, too. To a lesser extent, as it happened, but he didn't pull shit, he just asborbed the shockwaves.

That leaves Herc with the Atlas feat as his best... and it cannot be quanitified.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
👆 I believe it was me who broke that story on KMC.

Sure about this?

Care to refresh our memories?

emu Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The Manhattan showing was brought up because Herc was going to throw the entire continent/moon or whatever away.

Hand ninjas don't have the consistent feats Bats and Cap have.

Yes, but they could do just as well, since there's absolutely no discussion of a Herald wrecking the shit out of the forest, and killing everyong in it.

Just Cap and Batman bouncing around a forest Herc for some reason doesn't smash to shit, dodging everything Herc can throw at them, trees and all, (thrown by herald level strength, but both can dodge 20 ton, 60 foot lengths of wood, in a forest of all places lol, by expert flight path logics) and yet somehow get close enough to throw and land their own projectiles?

Element of surprise is a given. But once that's gone? Herc knows Cap real well.
Think Herc would for one second let Cap run around behind cover to begin with?

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And besides, Op only said full power. He didn't say we abandon every bit of character development.

Meaning, he still has the skills he used to hold off Elektra, in addition to years spent working with Cap and seeing how he operates.

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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Sure about this?

Care to refresh our memories?

Will post it when I can...but if you use the advanced search function for 'pink Hulk' by 'darksaint85' you'll find it.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Sure about this?

Care to refresh our memories?


In depth breakdown here

You're welcome. 😉

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Feat looks valid to me. Looks like they want a degree of suspension of disbelief else every big strength feat is discredited.
This is comics after all.
Thanks Zop

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Oh yeah, that looks 100% legit. Some vague comment about embellishing bracing against shockwaves doesn't disprove a thing.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Feat looks valid to me. Looks like they want a degree of suspension of disbelief else every big strength feat is discredited.
This is comics after all.
Thanks Zop

Did you not read the final scan? 😄 It was a goof :

Confirmed here :

Everything about the 'feat' was wrong. Hence the "That's exactly the way that merry Gerry (Conway) told it to us, friend! And quite frankly we're not sure if we believe it, either!"

It never happened.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

It happened on panel. Pretty sure that's their(editor/writer/Marvel) way of telling scrutinizing fans to have a little suspension of disbelief.

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Except it was also then printed in Marvel's comic that they reserve for errors....

Ize19 Senior Member

Read the whole thread that was posted. What was shown on panel was Hercules putting Manhattan back in place backwards, the comic it appeared in cast doubt on the feat, the scan from Hulk stated Herc kept Manhattan from being moved, but he exaggerated and claimed he pulled it back, it's been stated to not have happened in the Marvel Team Up Index, and multiple Marvel Handbooks, and two different No Prize books. Hercules didn't actually perform the feat, that's Marvel's official stance.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
It happened on panel. Pretty sure that's their(editor/writer/Marvel) way of telling scrutinizing fans to have a little suspension of disbelief.

Except that's not what it was. He placed the island BACKWARD with Battery Park facing the wrong direction! That's why the villain in the follow up arc said Hercules exaggerated his feat because everything about it was WRONG (hell the editor himself said it was BS in the very same issue it happened in).

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Does anyone have scans of the feat not happening?
I'm not talking about goofy editor explanations or jokey and vague walk-balks to explain errors, but actual story based panels.

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We also have scans of other characters saying that Herc exaggerated what he did.

Also, there's the whole 'Manhattan isn't backwards ' thing.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
We also have scans of other characters saying that Herc exaggerated what he did.

Also, there's the whole 'Manhattan isn't backwards ' thing.

Ocram's razor: Everything is backwards. Herc obviously reversed the direction of the Earth to mess with everyone. 😉

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

But Herc didn't narrate Marvel Team-Up #28.

Anyways... He has better strength feats than just pulling a measly island.

Ize19 Senior Member
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
But Herc didn't narrate Marvel Team-Up #28.

We were still told that MTU 28 was a recreation of what the creators were told had happened, and every source since has credited Hercules with the original embellishment. There's literally one (inaccurate) depiction of him performing the feat,and about a half dozen sources saying he didn't. The feat's invalid.

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Very true.

It was the writer.

Who the editors disavowed.