Superboy Prime replaces Doomsday in DOS

All right, what if this guy:

http://i36.tinypic.com/2poe2z5.jpg

Replaces Doomsday in DOS and fight with bloodlusted Superman?

Note: This is Superboy Prime during SCW.

Who wins?

Superman drops his mental blocks an run up on prime and gets his head seperated from his body in one right hook.

Originally posted by JBL
Superman drops his mental blocks an run up on prime and gets his head seperated from his body in one right hook.

Triggered.

Originally posted by JBL
Superman drops his mental blocks an run up on prime and gets his head seperated from his body in one right hook.

Normal Superman was drawing blood from him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not even bloodlusted Time Trapper SBP could do that with several attacks.

Normal Superman was drawing blood from him.

Originally posted by JBL
Normal superman? So this normal superman of yours let prime kill all those hero's instead of dropping mental blocks and atleast saving some of them? That would be the dumbest plot driven comic ever released to the public if superman could get stronger by removing mental blocks. I wonder why he didn't do that in over 50 years? Oh wait, millions of fans know why.

Do you ever take a break between meltdowns? It juss kills you Superman has dynamic powers, you have to blatantly ignore scans.

People that Sun amp don't have dynamic strength. The sun gave superman his powers.. not his mental state. Superman had mental blocks to keep from having to keep reminding himself to be careful around weaker people, Fact. Kills you don't it? Lol.

Originally posted by JBL
People that Sun amp don't have dynamic strength. The sun gave superman his powers.. not his mental state. Superman had mental blocks to keep from having to keep reminding himself to be careful around weaker people, Fact. Kills you don't it? Lol.

Thanks for proving what I said elsewhere about you ignoring scans, AND you havingthe reading comprehension of an 8 year old. 👆

I understand JBL's point.

Either Superman can come through when he wants to, or he can't.

If he can't, if the effectively crippling phenomenon of "holding back" is as random as a roll of dice, then Superman automatically should be getting a percentage of losses in forum fights because of it.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I understand JBL's point.

Either Superman can come through when he wants to, or he can't.

If he can't, if the effectively crippling phenomenon of "holding back" is as random as a roll of dice, then Superman automatically should be getting a percentage of losses in forum fights because of it.

He has no point. It's mental gymnastics. He's been shown multiple examples and pretends they weren't posted while having a hissy fit.

He can, except MOST of the foes he faces can be beaten without him needing to.

It's like saying he doesn't have HV....because he doesn't bust it out in every fight.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He can, except MOST of the foes he faces can be beaten without him needing to.

It's like saying he doesn't have HV....because he doesn't bust it out in every fight.

I don't think it's quite like saying that in context of this thread for 2 reasons:

1. I posted a thread where I had Red She-Hulk fighting the Doomsday of the arc mentioned in shorthand (Death of Superman). With She-Hulk taken from the "Wishing Well" storyline at the point where she equalled World Breaker Hulk in power. Superboy Prime is often roughly equated to this level, or just a little below. Most respondents effectively told me I had inadvertently created a spite thread -- She-Hulk from that arc is simply too much stronger than Doomsday to make a fair fight. But if Doomsday was the equal of Superman in that story and Prime nearly equal to Wishing Well She-Hulk, then Prime similarly outmatches Superman from that era.

2. The Death of Superman arc ended with a comatose Superman. His ability to stop "holding back" failed here despite the stakes. I don't doubt there are OTHER heroes with the power set to stop SCW Prime that couldn't stop Doomsday, for, if memory serves, the big key to taking Prime in that arc was to either slag his suit or just keep him from sunlight long enough to subdue, but I don't see an angry Doomsday-era Superman able to turn that trick solo.

The Superman from this era needed a long time to dropp his mental (subcounscious) blocks against DD. It happned bit by bit till he was able to kill DD. Against Prime he wouldn't have the necessary time before getting koed or killed. After OWAW it's an entire different debate.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I don't think it's quite like saying that in context of this thread for 2 reasons:

1. I posted a thread where I had Red She-Hulk fighting the Doomsday of the arc mentioned in shorthand (Death of Superman). With She-Hulk taken from the "Wishing Well" storyline at the point where she equalled World Breaker Hulk in power. Superboy Prime is often roughly equated to this level, or just a little below. Most respondents effectively told me I had inadvertently created a spite thread -- She-Hulk from that arc is simply too much stronger than Doomsday to make a fair fight. But if Doomsday was the equal of Superman in that story and Prime nearly equal to Wishing Well She-Hulk, then Prime similarly outmatches Superman from that era.

2. The Death of Superman arc ended with a comatose Superman. His ability to stop "holding back" failed here despite the stakes. I don't doubt there are OTHER heroes with the power set to stop SCW Prime that couldn't stop Doomsday, for, if memory serves, the big key to taking Prime in that arc was to either slag his suit or just keep him from sunlight long enough to subdue, but I don't see an angry Doomsday-era Superman able to turn that trick solo.

That's not the point you were making in the post I replied to, however.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's not the point you were making in the post I replied to, however.

It's Blue. Of course it wasn't.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's not the point you were making in the post I replied to, however.

Can you post exactly what you think the point I was making that you responded to was? Superman's "level up" ability seems to have been too slow to have been of practical use in either DOS (Death of Superman) OR the Sinestro Corps War (SCW).

Except now you're including a rate component into it, when previously it was a binary either he can or he can't choice.

Prime one shots.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Can you post exactly what you think the point I was making that you responded to was? Superman's "level up" ability seems to have been too slow to have been of practical use in either DOS (Death of Superman) OR the Sinestro Corps War (SCW).

He didn't "level up" until the end of the fight. He literally hurt his hands at one point before dropping the mental blocks, and beat Doomsday to death while injured and fatigue. Doomsday had been getting stronger as the fight went on, confirmed in SUPERMAN: REBIRTH.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Except now you're including a rate component into it, when previously it was a binary either he can or he can't choice.

JBL states it that way.

And I understand to a fair extent why he does.

And I said as much.

But that doesn't mean he has exactly the same view I do, anymore than my saying I understand Delta's point of view means that Delta and I share the same view.

I think Superman does have SOME ability to turn things up a notch, but not nearly as much most times as his most del devoted fans seem to think.