Originally posted by Rao Kal Eldon't get me wrong I am all about giving props to women but Blue you a such a feminist that you are betraying your own sex imo unless you are a female. In that case you should be a little bit more equal, neutral and logical when it comes onto what we can be considered equal and what is sjw, imo anyway.
To talk honestly here, we need to grab a bull or 2 or more by the horns.
1. Social Justice Warrior (SJW) "Feminism" is not true feminism. It actually works against BOTH men and women under disguise of a fight for equality. IN THE MANNER THEY ARE CONVENTIONALLY FOLLOWED, nearly every policy championed by SJW feminism ultimately leads to the breakdown of family and an increase in the power of the State. We can talk about this at length in private messaging or the forum of your choice at your invitation.
2. At nearly the opposite end of the spectrum, you are Hispanic, and come from a culture that has historically been quite sexist in many areas. That's not politically correct to say, perhaps, but if we can trade insults, we should also be able to trade the truth. That HAS an influence on you, and at some point it becomes stupid for me to omit mention of that fact. I have interacted with you for well over four years now, and, if my guesses are correct, well over 10. You are RIGHT to criticize SJW feminism.
But you sometimes go too far in the opposite direction.
3. Progress generally isn't made in an ideal environment in ideal ways.
Equal, neutral, and logical generally doesn't apply. Incidentally, you are PROBABLY wrong if you think that, by the rules of comicdom, the Benoist Supergirl show ISN'T following logic by having Supergirl win the fight I posted.
The work WAS rushed a bit though, so I can't say that with the confidence I wrote everything else above.
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElRight. Mental blocks lifted activates dynamic strength. Absolutely no limits at all.
Exactly what it has been shown on canon comics backed up by the Byrne interview 😬
OWAW Supes had a sundip. Im confused here...
When exactly was his dynamic strength activated?
Before or after flying into the sun? Lulz.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, Feminism, SJWs, Superman's dynamic strength? None of these are particularly relevant to the debate at hand, so please, leave them out of your posts.Stating things that are patently false doesn't win you any favours either.
OK 👆 in that case Superman kills prime to death and prime kills Superman to death.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
😬To be fair, though, getting absolute blanks like that is rare.
More often I get what I got a few moments after that, namely hard-to-see shots that are either blurry when expanded, or delayed activation of controls for the PREVIOUS picture, which zooms out in the background. Which is what happened in the viewing of the last scan here.
Photobucket is generally great if you're viewing it on laptop, as I used to when I had a working laptop. On an iPhone 5, now that I currently don't?
Not so much.
I really doubt it would make a difference if you could see them fine or not given the mental gymnastics you perform when evidence you can't counter is posted. If you even acknowledge it instead of change the subject and pretend it wasn't posted.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
It probably won't be the last time, either, since I'm usually trying to illustrate a central concept when I do that.Also, the comics DO support my stance, else you'd have been able to dismantle my argument long, long ago. There's a reason even a Superman fan like cdtm admits the Supergirl case smacks of editorial mandate, and that's because not only Loeb but nearly every writer during that time period gave evidence that Supergirl was, in comic book "fact" physically stronger than her cousin.
Yeah, Superman may be dynamic, but he's not THAT dynamic. Even after "leveling up" he still has a ceiling without outside aids. And that ceiling is lower than the height of Superboy Prime, who, in the very SCW (Sinestro Corps War) saga that the Originating Post of this thread mentions, lanced straight through Big Blue. Little more than a glance and Superman got perforated. He's not going toe-to-toe with a guy like that the way he did Doomsday. And it's doubly sure the Superman OF that earlier Doomsday era couldn't.
No, the comics do not support your stance. Your stance has been arguing that Jeph just came up with it to appease editors.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
This post of JBL's wasn't made in a vacuum. There's context and history behind it that the average fan reading this thread has little chance of understanding solely from what's printed here. I have my own knowledge of history; immediately coming to mind for me is the run of one Jeph Loeb, who gave this "Hey, maybe Superman holds back!" explanation to draw to a close his re-introduction of one Kara Zor-El, aka Supergirl, circa 2004, in her second story arc. Been thinking a LOT about that lately. Been seeing in places where pro-Superman people have been tacitly admitting that explanation doesn't follow from anything Jeph put in his books, makes sense most rather, that some editorial mandate had been passed "Jeph, do something to make people think status quo has been preserved".Why have they been doing this?
Because the producers of the Supergirl TV Series starring Melissa Benoist gave their answer to who the strongest between these 2 actually is, on many levels. And also who'd win in a fight.
A lot of Superman fans WON'T like the answer. DON'T like the answer.
Fact, I sent Delta a PM with links to 2 clips showing what happened. More than five times as many likes for the clip as dislikes, but nearly all dislikes focused on ONE thing, and now I see YouTube has removed what I sent him.I suspect the same fate awaits this one, but it's worth showing:
Except, Jeph had written Superman like that back in the late 90's. I posted the scans. Even if you could read them without issue, I doubt you'd accept it. You'd move the goal post, even though you previously argued it doesn't fit anything he wrote before, when he did write Superman like that years before reintroducing Supergirl.
Doomsday sure took a Guardian's suicide attack better than Prime did in the very story you cited. vin
