Wonder Woman vs. Superman

Originally posted by FrothByte
Got myself a 93 in physics (or something along that line). Also boxed during highschool and college. Majority of the power behind a punch is mass and momentum more than speed. After all, the fastest punch is a jab... it is also one of the weakest punches.

You don't know anything about boxing, a punches effectiveness depends on how hard you can hit, how hard a hit is, is based on how fast and how much force is behind the hit.

If you are really strong and you hit the heavy bag very slow, it won't have any force behind it. You could be the strongest person in the world, and hit the bad very slow and it won't have any effect.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's a 40mm low velocity weapon. around 250 feet per second.

Yeah like I said, modern bows can fire arrows at over 300 fps. Which means the guys in Arrow catching arrows actually display better reflexes than Superman catching that shell.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yeah like I said, modern bows can fire arrows at over 300 fps. Which means the guys in Arrow catching arrows actually display better reflexes than Superman catching that shell.

So back to, because he didn't do the same feat as Wonder Woman, means he can't. Does WW have a gun with Krptonite bullets in this fight?

Originally posted by Sable
You don't know anything about boxing, a punches effectiveness depends on how hard you can hit, how hard a hit is, is based on how fast and how much force is behind the hit.

If you are really strong and you hit the heavy bag very slow, it won't have any force behind it.

Did I say that speed doesn't factor into a punch's effectiveness? All I said was that speed did not affect a punch's power to the same degree as mass does. Yes, there are other factors like rigidity of surface, angle and positioning... but I didn't see any reason to go into that much detail. My point was simply that fast punch does not equal powerful punch.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yeah like I said, modern bows can fire arrows at over 300 fps. Which means the guys in Arrow catching arrows actually display better reflexes than Superman catching that shell.

TBF, what Superman did was more impressive than rando guy catching an arrow at the state fair, considering Supes had to react from a very close range. It's definitely a (lower) feat of superhuman speed/reaction time, but it's not like bullet catching.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's a 40mm low velocity weapon. around 250 feet per second.

Is 250 fps slow? That's almost a whole football field traveled in a second. So at 5-10 feet, it's instant reaction.

Originally posted by Sable
So back to, because he didn't do the same feat as Wonder Woman, means he can't. Does WW have a gun with Krptonite bullets in this fight?

Well, yeah. If he doesn't have any feats of similar or comparable value (or better value) then we automatically assume he can't. This is common sense no?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Did I say that speed doesn't factor into a punch's effectiveness? All I said was that speed did not affect a punch's power to the same degree as mass does. Yes, there are other factors like rigidity of surface, angle and positioning... but I didn't see any reason to go into that much detail. My point was simply that fast punch does not equal powerful punch.

Speed has everything to do with a punches power. I have already explained why it does. I just punched a pillow really slow and hard, it didn't move. I then punched it extreamly fast and hard and it flew across the room.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Well, yeah. If he doesn't have any feats of similar or comparable value (or better value) then we automatically assume he can't. This is common sense no?

So does Womder Woman have a gun in this fight?

Originally posted by Sable
Is 250 fps slow? That's almost a whole football field traveled in a second. So at 5-10 feet, it's instant reaction.

Compared to handguns? Yeah, that's pretty low. Don't know what kind of handgun was used in WW exactly but a Luger has bullet velocities of over 1100 fps.

Originally posted by Sable
You don't know anything about boxing, a punches effectiveness depends on how hard you can hit, how hard a hit is, is based on how fast and how much force is behind the hit.

If you are really strong and you hit the heavy bag very slow, it won't have any force behind it. You could be the strongest person in the world, and hit the bad very slow and it won't have any effect.

You realize that force is mass times acceleration. so you basically just said how hard a hit is, is based on how fast + how fast and much it weighs.

Originally posted by Sable
Speed has everything to do with a punches power. I have already explained why it does.

So why is the jab the fastest punch and yet also one of the weakest punches?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Compared to handguns? Yeah, that's pretty low. Don't know what kind of handgun was used in WW exactly but a Luger has bullet velocities of over 1100 fps.

So does WW have a gun?

Originally posted by FrothByte
So why is the jab the fastest punch and yet also one of the weakest punches?

Because there isn't much force behind it. Explain how Zod flys back at super speed, if not being hit with super speed.

Originally posted by Sable
So does WW have a gun?

Originally posted by Sable
So does WW have a gun?

No. But what has that got to do with this fight?

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
What does that have to do with anything? You ok bro? Lol

Because people keep saying bullet blocking feats matter in a fight. But they didn't matter with Ares or his henchman.

Originally posted by FrothByte
No. But what has that got to do with this fight?

Exactly, why do you keep bringing up bullet blocking feats in a fight with no gun.

Originally posted by Sable
Because there isn't much force behind it. Explain how Zod flys back at super speed, if not being hit with super speed.

According to you, you only need speed to determine a punch's power:

Speed has everything to do with a punches power.

Originally posted by Sable
Exactly, why do you keep bringing up bullet blocking feats in a fight with no gun.

He is bringing it up to showcase WW's reaction speed, the same reason you brought up the 40mm grenade for Superman. unless of course you were trying to claim that Superman has a 40mm grenade launcher in this fight.

So, were you claiming that Superman has a 40mm grenade launcher?