Wonder Woman vs. Superman

First of all WW wins.
2nd. MOS universe worked like pre-crisis universe regarding solar energy. Kryptonians only need a few moments in the sun to be at full power, not years.
This is proven by Faora casually stopping Superman's strength, Zod hitting Superman just as hard as Superman was hitting him, Nam showing he was slightly stronger than Clark, etc.

In h2h then Superman wins easily. Diana couldn't really damage Clark.
But with weapons, Diana wins. The sword alone is a hax weapon.
She can kill him with a single stab. She can slice his throat or do other devastating things. The lasso and bracer crossing is overkill.

Originally posted by FrothByte
True, it was 2v1, but he was still more powerful than each of those 2 individually. I mean, it's still a good feat for Superman, but I just don't consider it as a great depiction of his skill so much as a good depiction of how much more he's able to utilize his powers.

When Clark first learned how to fly, remember how he was crashing all over the place and needed some practice to get his bearing? Zod had to learn how to fly in the middle of a fight. Now that's impressive.

Originally posted by Sable
Crashing all over the place!? HAHAHAHA Wtf are you talking about, he lost flight control ONE TIME and crashed ONE TIME. Disgraceful liar.

You are forever discredited as a legitimate poster after that wallop.

Originally posted by Sable
Needing some practice LOL.. Yes it took 1 minute of practice. Zod knew Superman could fly. And after he was incapacitated, he went back to the the ship or elsewhere to hone his senses and powers. Clark never knew he could fly, thus it took him 1 minute to learn how. Its almost like you are mentally retarded and have no clue what you are talking about and or just full of shit, misrepresenting characters, purposely leaving out feats and misrepresenting those as well.

Wow, everyone's so polite...

Anyway, while I expect the movies to eventually even it out and show that Superman is superior, right now, the only real advantage he seems to have is in overt strength and durability. She's fast enough to at least be on his level reaction-wise, and is far more skilled.

She just hasn't been shown to be as overtly strong as he is, and I doubt that will change.

We'll see after JL how well they stack up, imo.

^ Well the new JL trailer seems to imply Kryptonians and Green Lanterns are the top dogs. But we'll see.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Well the new JL trailer seems to imply Kryptonians and Green Lanterns are the top dogs. But we'll see.

Well that's just DC being DC, I think. In the cosmic scale, you don't get much better than them, even though you can argue that Amazons like Diana, or even the likes of Shazam and the Martians, can compete.

Supes in both, so far he's faster and much stronger than Wondy, the only advantage she could possibly have is weaponry and fighting skills

He's not faster

Froth, you lost the thread, pack up and shut up.

Originally posted by FrothByte
True, it was 2v1, but he was still more powerful than each of those 2 individually. I mean, it's still a good feat for Superman, but I just don't consider it as a great depiction of his skill so much as a good depiction of how much more he's able to utilize his powers.

When Clark first learned how to fly, remember how he was crashing all over the place and needed some practice to get his bearing? Zod had to learn how to fly in the middle of a fight. Now that's impressive.

Originally posted by Sable
Crashing all over the place!? HAHAHAHA Wtf are you talking about, he lost flight control ONE TIME and crashed ONE TIME. Disgraceful liar.

You are forever discredited as a legitimate poster after that wallop.

Originally posted by Sable
Needing some practice LOL.. Yes it took 1 minute of practice. Zod knew Superman could fly. And after he was incapacitated, he went back to the the ship or elsewhere to hone his senses and powers. Clark never knew he could fly, thus it took him 1 minute to learn how. Its almost like you are mentally retarded and have no clue what you are talking about and or just full of shit, misrepresenting characters, purposely leaving out feats and misrepresenting those as well.

Originally posted by relentless1
Supes in both, so far he's faster and much stronger than Wondy, the only advantage she could possibly have is weaponry and fighting skills

What feats could you possibly be using to declare Superman as being faster?

Remember, flight was removed for the first round.

Do you have autism?

His speed blitzes without flying.

Originally posted by FrothByte
True, it was 2v1, but he was still more powerful than each of those 2 individually. I mean, it's still a good feat for Superman, but I just don't consider it as a great depiction of his skill so much as a good depiction of how much more he's able to utilize his powers.

When Clark first learned how to fly, remember how he was crashing all over the place and needed some practice to get his bearing? Zod had to learn how to fly in the middle of a fight. Now that's impressive.

Yeah, and they were preventing him from using the powers they didn't have by ganging up on him. And again, they were far more experienced in H2H than Clark.

The point of the "where did you train" line was to show that Zod was adapting to his powers far faster than Clark. He didn't have any trouble flying around the city in mid combat.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes, they were flying in real time. They were flying in real time [b]extremely fast, whereas they were only punching in real time with regular speed. Do you see the difference?

If two actions were performed in real time and one was done extremely fast whereas the other was done pretty slow, you'd have to be an idiot to claim that they were done equally fast. That's like saying someone who's walking is just as fast as someone sprinting.

You have no idea of what you are talking about, do you? It's like saying your one leg is moving at a different speed from other while you are sprinting.

Try to do it sometimes.

When slow-motion is used in the movie 300, the Spartans are moving about just as slowly as everyone else around them. That's quite different from how it's used in Wonder Woman, where Wonder Woman seems to be moving in regular speed whereas everyone is moving in slow motion. This shows that she's clearly a lot faster than they are. Do you see the difference?

Why can't all humans in 300 using Superspeed? As you said you need a visual cue for Superspeed it's right there.

Where did you get that she was moving in regular speed? She was moving in slow motion and the humans were moving even slower as per your logic.

Prove it was Diana moving at regular speed.

Yes, my argument is that you need some kind of visual clue as to how fast something is moving in a movie for you to say it's superspeed. It's not like we can touch the characters in the movie to know whether they're moving in superspeed after all. And though you may think visual proof is a shallow form of proof, it's still lightyears better than your "They have superspeed because I said so" mentality. [/B]

You're just an idiot in that case as the visual is right there with Superman attacking Zod at Superspeed while flying.

Try to keep up.

Edit.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Where did you get that he was punching in normal speed but flying really fast? You can't have both boy.

You have no idea of what you are talking about, do you? It's like saying your one leg is moving at a different speed from other while you are sprinting.

Try to do it sometimes.

Why can't all humans in 300 using Superspeed? As you said you need a visual cue for Superspeed it's right there.

Where did you get that she was moving in regular speed? She was moving in slow motion and the humans were moving even slower as per your logic.

Prove it was Diana moving at regular speed.

You're just an idiot in that case as the visual is right there with Superman attacking Zod at Superspeed while flying.

Try to keep up.

Because you can clearly see that they're flying at extremely fast speeds whereas they're only throwing punches at regular speeds. By god man, this is flat out common sense. You can easily jog at a good clip while throwing slow punches.

At this point I'm convinced you're just plain trolling. There's no way anybody could be this stupid. Or maybe you are, I don't know. At any rate, it seems clear that this discussion is going no where. Either everything I say seems to just go over your head (because let's face it, you clearly didn't understand any of my points in the previous post) or you are intentionally acting dumb, misunderstanding my points and twisting my words just to be an ass.

So there's really no point in continuing this discussion.

Originally posted by FrothByte
True, it was 2v1, but he was still more powerful than each of those 2 individually. I mean, it's still a good feat for Superman, but I just don't consider it as a great depiction of his skill so much as a good depiction of how much more he's able to utilize his powers.

When Clark first learned how to fly, remember how he was crashing all over the place and needed some practice to get his bearing? Zod had to learn how to fly in the middle of a fight. Now that's impressive.

How can anyone be this stupid?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Because you can clearly see that they're flying at extremely fast speeds whereas they're only throwing punches at regular speeds. By god man, this is flat out common sense. You can easily jog at a good clip while throwing slow punches.

At this point I'm convinced you're just plain trolling. There's no way anybody could be this stupid. Or maybe you are, I don't know. At any rate, it seems clear that this discussion is going no where. Either everything I say seems to just go over your head (because let's face it, you clearly didn't understand any of my points in the previous post) or you are intentionally acting dumb, misunderstanding my points and twisting my words just to be an ass.

So there's really no point in continuing this discussion.

Zods punches were not moving at human speed. I posted clips of this before, which you ignored.

Originally posted by Silent Master
What feats could you possibly be using to declare Superman as being faster?

Remember, flight was removed for the first round.

as a kryptonian, hes comparable to Faora and her speed feats as well as Nam eks

Originally posted by relentless1
as a kryptonian, hes comparable to Faora and her speed feats as well as Nam eks

Except Faora was able to casually sidestep Superman's attacks. Which leads me to believe Faora is actually faster.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Except Faora was able to casually sidestep Superman's attacks.

Due to superior skills and Superman's reluctance to go all out. The dialogue made that clear.