Originally posted by Psychotron
I believe I already said "skill".
Do you know what makes Mayweather faster than me? Training.
While genetics will play a part in it, mostly his speed is the result of training and skill. From a purely physical point of view, I'm still a fit human male roughly of the same size and the potential to be as fast or at least close to as fast. Thing is, I don't have anywhere near the same amount of training and skill he has and so I know he's a lot faster than I am.
So yes, Faora is more skilled than Superman, but that skill will also translate to her being faster than him in h2h. Long story short, what I'm saying is that she's actually faster than Superman except in flight.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Do you know what makes Mayweather faster than me? Training.
While genetics will play a part in it, mostly his speed is the result of training and skill. From a purely physical point of view, I'm still a fit human male roughly of the same size and the potential to be as fast or at least close to as fast. Thing is, I don't have anywhere near the same amount of training and skill he has and so I know he's a lot faster than I am.So yes, Faora is more skilled than Superman, but that skill will also translate to her being faster than him in h2h. Long story short, what I'm saying is that she's actually faster than Superman except in flight.
Mate, I'm agreeing with you, Faora was more skilled in pure H2H.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Because you can clearly see that they're flying at extremely fast speeds whereas they're only throwing punches at regular speeds. By god man, this is flat out common sense. You can easily jog at a good clip while throwing slow punches.
I'm just having fun at your expense at the moment. Trying to see how far you will go to defend this moronic logic.
So you think jogging at human speed and flying at superhuman speeds are the same?
And since humans in 300 can move in slow mo, they must have Superspeed, no?
At this point I'm convinced you're just plain trolling. There's no way anybody could be this stupid. Or maybe you are, I don't know. At any rate, it seems clear that this discussion is going no where. Either everything I say seems to just go over your head (because let's face it, you clearly didn't understand any of my points in the previous post) or you are intentionally acting dumb, misunderstanding my points and twisting my words just to be an ass.
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The sheer irony is so laughable. You're essentially saying if we can see someone punching at real life speed even if they are openly acting at Superspeed. That's the dumbest thing on this forum and with H1 here that's really an accomplishment.
Kudos.
So there's really no point in continuing this discussion.
Aww, we are so close to giving humans in 300 Superspeed. Why cry now?
Finally got around to watching Justice League. Lol @ this thread and how long it went on when the answer was obvious from the first page. Superman is faster, stronger, and more durable by a large margin. It's a flat out stomp.
Thankfully, this also confirms that Faora would stomp the hell out of WW. It's nice having a good showing from Supes (not that it was needed since all his prior feats still insanely outclass her, but it's nice having something definitive).
She tries to use her lasso against him after Cyborg blasts him (to absolutely no effect), but he catches the other end of the lasso with one hand. WW manages to make him take all of one step forward, before he starts pulling back. And despite the fact that he was using only one arm, and she was holding on with both her own, and trying to find purchase with her feet, he was still overpowering her. She only manages to stop her progress when she reaches a step to brace herself against.
So, it took Wonder Woman's entire body, plus something to brace against, just to match the strength of Clark's one arm.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
She tries to use her lasso against him after Cyborg blasts him (to absolutely no effect), but he catches the other end of the lasso with one hand. WW manages to make him take all of one step forward, before he starts pulling back. And despite the fact that he was using only one arm, and she was holding on with both her own, and trying to find purchase with her feet, he was still overpowering her. She only manages to stop her progress when she reaches a step to brace herself against.So, it took Wonder Woman's entire body, plus something to brace against, just to match the strength of Clark's one arm.
Remember, Kal-El can anchor himself in place using flight. He had a huge leverage advantage over Diana.