The Battle for the Title: Jane Thor vs Thor

Originally posted by h1a8
You do, I don't. It's stupid to do that. That's a fact and not an opinion.
Feats are only relevant is if they the correspond to the actual forum fight.

Jane is stronger. Odinson can not bend adamantium/vibranium. He once hit adamantium will all his might and visually did no damage.
Her speed feat can be applied to combat.
It just takes common sense.

And spamming Mjolnir is an automatic win for her.

Yet again youre not making zero sense. Janes sole strength feat is akin to me opeining an elevator door. It is not as impressive as youre making out, all she managed to do was overcome the mechanism which kept it closed. And it took all her strength to do that. We dont even know what grade adamantium it was..True, secondary etc?

Her speed feat should not be used as a combat showing. It isnt relevant.

And if she spams mjolnor he can just block it like hes always done with his own mjolnir

Originally posted by h1a8
That has nothing to do with this fight. They are irrelevant.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Yet again youre not making zero sense. Janes sole strength feat is akin to me opeining an elevator door. It is not as impressive as youre making out, all she managed to do was overcome the mechanism which kept it closed. And it took all her strength to do that. We dont even know what grade adamantium it was..True, secondary etc?

Her speed feat should not be used as a combat showing. It isnt relevant.

And if she spams mjolnor he can just block it like hes always done with his own mjolnir

In comics adamantium is considered true adamantium by writer's intentions unless otherwise stated or later retconned.

Thor can't continue to block a spamming Mjolnir that's coming from all directions (even behind him).

Originally posted by h1a8
She physically ripped and bent the doors. Thor could not even VISUALLY bent adamantium with using Mjolnir (which amps his striking power). This is a vast difference in strength.

In comics adamantium is considered true adamantium by writer's intentions unless otherwise stated or later retconned.

Thor can't continue to block a spamming Mjolnir that's coming from all directions (even behind him).

You do know Jane has Thor's strength right? There's no possible way she's stronger than him.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
You do know Jane has Thor's strength right? There's no possible way she's stronger than him.

And how would you explain Odinson not being able to do anything to adamantium and Jane can?

Originally posted by h1a8
She's stronger. Mjolnir gives her strength. Odinson has his own strength.

And how would you explain Odinson not being able to do anything to adamantium and Jane can?

Different writers, obviously. Aaron writes Thor at a pretty high clip compared to others. Mjolnir grants Jane the power of Thor, theres no way she's stronger than him, with the exact same physical stats, that's stupid.

In the words of Doctor Doom:

The real Odinson is a lot more experienced but Jane Thor has a lot of help from Mjolnir. Stalemate or edge to Thor.

Originally posted by darthgoober
IDK... I'd def credit Thor with better highs, but from what I've seen she does have the edge in "averages". I mean she's racked up quite a feat catelog within a relatively short period of time.

Aaron's Thor definitely has one of the highest averages in a very long time which is probably what paints this picture in your mind. His run with Thor was a lot more dark and LOTR style but the average was as high (With one of Thor's greatest feats, yet to be matched by Jane) as his Jane Thor.

God of Thunder was pretty savage.

Originally posted by h1a8
She's stronger. Mjolnir gives her strength. Odinson has his own strength.

And how would you explain Odinson not being able to do anything to adamantium and Jane can?

Now that's out of the way, he doesn't have to rip adamantium/vibranium doors to show he has the strength to compete.

He has plenty of strength feats that she's never performed. He has easily crumbled uru twice. He's easily snapped Adamantium alloy cables. He's pushed against the will of the Yggdrassil. He's pulled the Midgard Serpent off of the earth.

And for comparison, he's knocked out the Phoenix entity and sent it flying planetary distances. He's also literally clipped its wings. She on the other hand hasn't done much against it. In fact the only time she was sort of doing well against it was when he came to the rescue and matched the mother storm with his own inmate storm powers.

Originally posted by h1a8
She physically ripped and bent the doors. Thor could not even VISUALLY bent adamantium with using Mjolnir (which amps his striking power). This is a vast difference in strength.

In comics adamantium is considered true adamantium by writer's intentions unless otherwise stated or later retconned.

Thor can't continue to block a spamming Mjolnir that's coming from all directions (even behind him).

She did not rip it she pried it apart. And as u can see it's split down the middle like an elevator. Unless youre telling me Jane broke thru something that mjolnir could not

So basically that is Mijnoir's Strenght. Not Jane's. What has she got WITH OUT the Hammer backing her up?

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Different writers, obviously. Aaron writes Thor at a pretty high clip compared to others. Mjolnir grants Jane the power of Thor, theres no way she's stronger than him, with the exact same physical stats, that's stupid.

Anyway it's clear cut and Canon if one character can do something strength wise and another can't then they are stronger.

She did bend the metal that was enhanced by magic. Look at her hands and the dents in the metal.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Not transferring feats, but technically it's his power that she obtained. His strength, his durability, his speed, his damage soak. His physical attributes. Just food for thought.

Now that's out of the way, he doesn't have to rip adamantium/vibranium doors to show he has the strength to compete.

He has plenty of strength feats that she's never performed. He has easily crumbled uru twice. He's easily snapped Adamantium alloy cables. He's pushed against the will of the Yggdrassil. He's pulled the Midgard Serpent off of the earth.

And for comparison, he's knocked out the Phoenix entity and sent it flying planetary distances. He's also literally clipped its wings. She on the other hand hasn't done much against it. In fact the only time she was sort of doing well against it was when he came to the rescue and matched the mother storm with his own inmate storm powers.

There is no logical reason why Mjolnir would grant Jane Odinson's exact strength and physical attributes. Mjolnir has nothing to do with Odinson's
physical attributes.

Uru strength depends on the enchantment. Show me scans of this.
Wasn't those secondary adamantium cables? Show me scans of this too.
Yggdrassil is unquantifiable. It could have taken 200 tons for all we know.
Midgard Serpent was mostly in ghostly form (ethereal form) and the boat helped.

Feats with Mjolnir are not strength feats since Mjolnir is sentient and it adds striking power.

Also Jane has no showings that contradict her strength showings. Thus they are her average. Thor has many showings that contradict his top strength feats. Thus his average is far lower.

Originally posted by Sin I AM

She did not rip it she pried it apart. And as u can see it's split down the middle like an elevator. Unless youre telling me Jane broke thru something that mjolnir could not

Originally posted by h1a8
There is no logical reason why Mjolnir would grant Jane Odinson's exact strength and physical attributes. Mjolnir has nothing to do with Odinson's
physical attributes.

Feats with Mjolnir are not strength feats since Mjolnir is sentient and it adds striking power.

Also Jane has no showings that contradict her strength showings. Thus they are her average. Thor has many showings that contradict his top strength feats. Thus his average is far lower.

Its been stated multiple times ad nauseum that she possesses the power of Thor. Nothing contradicts that.

If feats with mjolnir arent strength feats then none of hers are admissable since they all come from mjolnir. She begs for assistance like every encounter.

Originally posted by carver9
She did bend the metal that was enhanced by magic. Look at her hands and the dents in the metal.

So? Whos discounting that? We still dont know what grade adamantium it is. True adamantium is extremely rare. Are you suggesting a random ass vibranium door with adamantium plating is the same level as caps shield?

I think it's more durable than cap Shield. It was adamantium, Vibranium AND it was enhanced with magic.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Its been stated multiple times ad nauseum that she possesses the power of Thor. Nothing contradicts that.

If feats with mjolnir arent strength feats then none of hers are admissable since they all come from mjolnir. She begs for assistance like every encounter.

So? Whos discounting that? We still dont know what grade adamantium it is. True adamantium is extremely rare. Are you suggesting a random ass vibranium door with adamantium plating is the same level as caps shield?

Also it is contradicted by Jane being shown to do something and Odinson failing to be able to do it (adamantium feat).

Writer's intentions! There is no such notion as we do not know what the door is made out of.

I meant feats evolving using Mjolnir to hit something. Those are not strength feats.

Is it me or H1 is actually making sense for a change?

Originally posted by h1a8
There is no logical reason why Mjolnir would grant Jane Odinson's exact strength and physical attributes. Mjolnir has nothing to do with Odinson's
physical attributes.

Uru strength depends on the enchantment. Show me scans of this.
Wasn't those secondary adamantium cables? Show me scans of this too.
Yggdrassil is unquantifiable. It could have taken 200 tons for all we know.
Midgard Serpent was mostly in ghostly form (ethereal form) and the boat helped.

Feats with Mjolnir are not strength feats since Mjolnir is sentient and it adds striking power.

Also Jane has no showings that contradict her strength showings. Thus they are her average. Thor has many showings that contradict his top strength feats. Thus his average is far lower.

Uru is naturally mystical and is "virtually unbreakable".
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5TWuYvJRaPY/WPjPWuD9csI/AAAAAAADZLA/p9ly6xyqMy0RHDAud35T_HC6NcX4sXDPQCLcB/s1600/066_007.jpg

Thor has molded ure into a hammer.
http://imgur.com/ltJfkMy.jpg
http://imgur.com/wdv0YKk.jpg

He's crumbled "ultra-powerful" uru manacles into dust.
http://imgur.com/Hh6pGM7.jpg
http://imgur.com/a0Tub2E.jpg

I don't know if they were secondary, but I did mention they were called adamantium alloy. The scan made it know clearly known they were incredibly strong. "Strongest metal known to man".
http://imgur.com/jFzmVum.jpg
http://imgur.com/zqNffNg.jpg

He pushed against the "will" of the World Tree. To lowball such a feat is flat out absurd. 😬

The Midgard Serpent's natural size is such that its coils can encircle the earth. Sometimes depicted in such a way that it can encircle it many times over. Even in ethereal form, its enormous size/mass was considerable enough to cause gravitational disturbances throughout the planet as evidenced by countless natural disasters. It has also been said that it retains its full "weight and power" no matter what form or size it takes due to its ability to shape shift. And just for your information, the word ethereal also means unearthly or heavenly.

Feats with Mjolnir can also strength feats. You're good at math right? Use it.
For example... During the godbomb, how much strength was Thor exerting when he was cracking planets while pounding on Gorr vs to how much strength he was using when he pounding on Gorr earlier in the arc, but was not cracking planets?? Get me now. An attempt to dismiss such feats is an attempt to be ignorant.

Read some Jane Thor because even she is not invulnerable to the all powerful low showing. Believe me... She has them just like any top tier. Think on that before you proclaim to know what her average is.

Originally posted by carver9
I think it's more durable than cap Shield. It was adamantium, Vibranium AND it was enhanced with magic.

It's inconclusive whether magic increased its durability. The magic wards were more for intruders trying to use more esoteric avenues of entry as opposed to conventional means.