Bane vs. Winter Soldier h2h

Ill post these again for those that missed them.

These showcase Bane and Balemans magnificent skill, speed, technique and strength. And the skill of expert trained thugs and soldiers that Baleman fights.

Remember kids we go off screen feats not on assumptions, reputation or implied feats and skill.

You were asking why people hated the movies, I answered.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You were asking why people hated the movies, I answered.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Ill post these again for those that missed them.

These showcase Bane and Balemans magnificent skill, speed, technique and strength. And the skill of expert trained thugs and soldiers that Baleman fights.

Remember kids we go off screen feats not on assumptions, reputation or implied feats and skill.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I didn't ask why people hated Man of Steel or BvS actually. In regards to Superman, I asked why he had your panties in a twist. You might want to work on your reading comprehension lad.

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Originally posted by NemeBro
No, assertions that "but they'd never accidentally let a bad special effect into a movie!" don't hold water when Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part 1 had the white marble tomb of Dumbledore be made out of ****ing styrofoam. 👇

That film had a similarly high budget. Even professionals with lots of funding make mistakes.

2) No, we're not going to be retarded and assume that the giant column meant to support this massive building's weight was made of drywall, especially not when it didn't sound like drywall being broken at all. I've seen drywall be punched through with forklifts, and it doesn't sound quite so much like stone breaking, like what Bane did to the column.

1) True. But one does not assume experienced professionals make obvious mistakes often. In an argument where neither side can present evidence to prove their assertion with absolute certainty, the more likely possibility becomes the better argument.

2) Why is it retarded? Decorative non-load bearing columns exist (and from how the columns were spaced in TDKR, those were most likely decorative as it would be a waste of money to space load bearing columns so close together using modern materials/construction techniques). There are even techniques where a cheaper, easier-to-shape material (like fiberglass and drywall) is layered over load bearing columns to give them a specific look and shape. Either are possibilities that cannot be dismissed without evidence invalidating either possibilities.

Just to clafiry: Not convinced either way on the stone-not-stone debate, tbh. Just enjoy throwing arguments in to fuel the debate. I am very bored atm.

Originally posted by Inhuman

The fight choreography is still awful but I mean, I think in this instance it was a production mistake cause of how obvious the flub was here, especially if it can be explained via reasoning

In any case, vfx flub or not, nothing about what we've seen with Bane indicates that he's strong enough to crush a solid stone pillar with a punch. If that was the case he should have broken quite a number of Batman's bones during their fight, kevlar or no.

The strength thing doesn't really matter much tbh.
Let's say Bane does have low super human strength like Ozy.
Bane would still be a tier below Cap & WS in strength. Add to the fact Bane is a slow brawler from what is seen in the film.
Doesn't matter how much strength we issue Bane, this is still a non fight with WS winning 10/10

I still like how h1 said that the writer's intention doesn't matter, the only thing that matters is h1's opinion on what the writer intended.

Originally posted by Inhuman
The strength thing doesn't really matter much tbh.
Let's say Bane does have low super human strength like Ozy.
Bane would still be a tier below Cap & WS in strength. Add to the fact Bane is a slow brawler from what is seen in the film.
Doesn't matter how much strength we issue Bane, this is still a non fight with WS winning 10/10

Agreed. Even if we gave Bane the same strength as WS, he's still much slower and has not displayed the skill to outfight WS.

I know it's been done before and h1 refuses to actually agree to logic.

But couldn't we just put up every feat they have and look at the difference in scale?

For instance breaking concrete <<<< tapping a car and sending it careening off the road.

h1's arguments are based on his opinion of writer's intent.

Or to put it another way. h1 is always right, regardless of what the movies show.

Oh yeah that's obvious. What's even more obvious is how he seems to think no one has realized his arguments have no basis on anything other than "I'm right, and you're not" and he seems to think we're idiots who simply sit here and take his words as gospel. Like Google isn't a thing that can shatter every lie he tells instantly with a search.

Originally posted by h1a8
No weapons or armor. Just plain street clothes.
Bane knows about WS metal arm and how powerful it is. He fights to the best of his ability.
Fight is to ko or incapacitation.

Who wins?

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
Metal arm that bane knows about punches Bane in the mouth and he crumbles on the floor as if his nutsack is where his teeth should be

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I say it would never very difficult for WS to even hit Bane with the metal arm. Even then, Bane can take at least a couple before going down. Bane on the other hand would do some serious damage to WS with his punches.

Originally posted by h1a8
I say it would never very difficult for WS to even hit Bane with the metal arm. Even then, Bane can take at least a couple before going down. Bane on the other hand would do some serious damage to WS with his punches.

So the guy far weaker than Cap and Black Panther will do some serious damage to Bucky? While Bane can take multiple hits from the metal arm that only Cap and above is seen tanking?

Originally posted by h1a8
I say it would never very difficult for WS to even hit Bane with the metal arm. Even then, Bane can take at least a couple before going down. Bane on the other hand would do some serious damage to WS with his punches.

In your massively biased opinion, by feats and by writer's intention WS wins 10/10.

Originally posted by Silent Master
In your massively biased opinion, by feats and by writer's intention WS wins 10/10.

Originally posted by h1a8
No writer has wrote Bane vs WS before.

Point

h1's head.