Originally posted by h1a8
You need handspeed, reflexes, and know how (skill).I've seen all of the shows.
1. And again, Miyagi has not shown the handspeed, reflexes and know how to counter someone of Sunny's skill and physical stats. And before you mention the arrow again, note that Miyagi never counter attacked that arrow so that doesn't count.
2. You obviously haven't.
Originally posted by FrothByte
1. And again, Miyagi has not shown the handspeed, reflexes and know how to counter someone of Sunny's skill and physical stats. And before you mention the arrow again, note that Miyagi never counter attacked that arrow so that doesn't count.2. You obviously haven't.
You have to remember, h1 has never been in a fight or had any training, so he doesn't actually understand what he's talking about.
Originally posted by Silent Master
So you're forbidding Sunny from defending himself?
No, the impossibility is forbidding him from doing so.
It's impossible to defend a counter attack. If you disagree then please provide evidence of someone able to defend WHILE they are attacking going forward with their limb.
Originally posted by FrothByte
1. And again, Miyagi has not shown the handspeed, reflexes and know how to counter someone of Sunny's skill and physical stats. And before you mention the arrow again, note that Miyagi never counter attacked that arrow so that doesn't count.2. You obviously haven't.
1. Sunny's skill is irrelevant. A bullet has no skill (it's a projectile). An attack is a projectile like a bullet. It takes speed and reflexes to defend and know how (how to parry a punch or kick). Sunny's physical stats are irrelevant. He's not as fast as an arrow. Miyagi can counter him just fine.
Originally posted by h1a8
No, the impossibility is forbidding him from doing so.
It's impossible to defend a counter attack. If you disagree then please provide evidence of someone able to defend WHILE they are attacking going forward with their limb.
That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. you have provided no evidence to prove that it is actually impossible to defend from a counter attack.
I mean, you don't even know what the term means.
Originally posted by h1a8
1. Sunny's skill is irrelevant. A bullet has no skill (it's a projectile). An attack is a projectile like a bullet. It takes speed and reflexes to defend and know how (how to parry a punch or kick). Sunny's physical stats are irrelevant. He's not as fast as an arrow. Miyagi can counter him just fine.
Except Miyagi never countered a bullet or an arrow. So your examples are completely useless in this fight.
Originally posted by Silent Master
That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. you have provided no evidence to prove that it is actually impossible to defend from a counter attack.I mean, you don't even know what the term means.
I can provided billions of evidi. Just simply show someone counter attacking someone else. The status quo is assumed true until sufficient evidence is provided for the alternate hypothesis.
Originally posted by FrothByteBullets and arrows have no bodies to harm.
Except Miyagi never countered a bullet or an arrow. So your examples are completely useless in this fight.
I combine premises to form a conclusion. I'm using a deductive argument.
To counter an attack it takes reflexes to see and respond to the attack, speed to parry the attack, skill to know how to parry, speed and reflexes to counter before the attacker recovers, and skill to know how to counter.
Miyagi has all of these things. If you disagree then list which things (1 at a time) and I'll prove it.
Originally posted by h1a8
I can provided billions of evidi. Just simply show someone counter attacking someone else. The status quo is assumed true until sufficient evidence is provided for the alternate hypothesis.
By all means, provide your claimed billions of pieces of evidence that counter attacks are a hundred percent effective, that they never fail or are themselves countered.
Originally posted by h1a8
Bullets and arrows have no bodies to harm.I combine premises to form a conclusion. I'm using a deductive argument.
To counter an attack it takes reflexes to see and respond to the attack, speed to parry the attack, skill to know how to parry, speed and reflexes to counter before the attacker recovers, and skill to know how to counter.
Miyagi has all of these things. If you disagree then list which things (1 at a time) and I'll prove it.
You combine unrelated occurrences to backup a questionable standpoint.
You do know that when you say "to counter an attack" you don't simply block or parry an attack, you need to attack after you parry. And then you need to make sure that that attack can actually land on your opponent, otherwise it's not a successful counterattack.
So what I need from you is proof/feat that Miyagi can successfully land a counter attack on someone as fast and skilled as Sunny. Because parrying/blocking is only half a counter attack, you're missing proof of the other half.
Originally posted by Silent Master
All H1 is doing is proving me right when I said he has never been in a fight or had any training.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious. Even things that are completely obvious he can't seem to grasp. I mean, if he truly believes this "This person will win because he won't strike first" BS then that's already one huge red flag that this person obviously knows nothing about fighting.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Yeah, it's pretty obvious. Even things that are completely obvious he can't seem to grasp. I mean, if he truly believes this "This person will win because he won't strike first" BS then that's already one huge red flag that this person obviously knows nothing about fighting.
Well, he is also still persisting with that whole "defending can be much slower than the attack" crap, even though an attack happens first, so defending actually needs to be faster in order to be successful. What killed me though was that I recall him saying something about being highly trained in wrestling, yet he previously admitted that he doesn't understand how grappling works.