Originally posted by Silent Master
When has Miyagi ever countered someone that is as fast and skilled as Sunny and what is stopping Sunny from countering Miyagi counter?
What he is trying to do now is essentially what we refer to as "scripting" a fight. He is saying Sunny will do A, Miyagi will do B, and then C will definitely happen. Even though Miyagi has never done that to an opponent of Sunny's caliber in an actual fight before.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
What he is trying to do now is essentially what we refer to as "scripting" a fight. He is saying Sunny will do A, Miyagi will do B, and then C will definitely happen. Even though Miyagi has never done that to an opponent of Sunny's caliber in an actual fight before.
Sunny WILL attack first. This is a fact.
Miyagi DOES have the reactions to respond and the hand speed to defend. This is a fact.
Miyagi is very skilled at countering simultaneously as he is defending against an attack (fact).
Miyagi has exception hand speed to counter Sunny before he can recover from being extended (another fact).
There is no script.
Originally posted by h1a8
Sunny WILL attack first. This is a fact.
Miyagi DOES have the reactions to respond and the hand speed to defend. This is a fact.
Miyagi is very skilled at countering simultaneously as he is defending against an attack (fact).
Miyagi has exception hand speed to counter Sunny before he can recover from being extended (another fact).There is no script.
You obviously have zero knowledge of how fights actually happen.
An experienced fighter will almost never fully commit to his first attack. Just because Miyagi counter's Sunny's first attack doesn't mean that Sunny would have over extended himself. There's also such a thing as countering a counter. In fact there can be a brief exchange of attacks that all don't land properly.
Lastly, having the reflexes to catch an arrow doesn't mean you can counter. It means you have enough reflexes to move your hand, that doesn't mean you have the strength to block a full strike nor the ability to counter after that block.
Originally posted by h1a8
Sunny WILL attack first. This is a fact.
Miyagi DOES have the reactions to respond and the hand speed to defend. This is a fact.
Miyagi is very skilled at countering simultaneously as he is defending against an attack (fact).
Miyagi has exception hand speed to counter Sunny before he can recover from being extended (another fact).There is no script.
When has Miyagi ever countered someone that is as fast and skilled as Sunny and what is stopping Sunny from countering Miyagi counter?
Originally posted by Silent MasterSkill is irrelevant to Miyagi seeing Sunny's attack coming forward. It's all about reflexes.
When has Miyagi ever countered someone that is as fast and skilled as Sunny and what is stopping Sunny from countering Miyagi counter?
Miyagi has reacted and defended against faster things than Sunny's attacks.
Originally posted by h1a8
Skill is irrelevant to Miyagi seeing Sunny's attack coming forward. It's all about reflexes.Miyagi has reacted and defended against faster things than Sunny's attacks.
Except a single arrow can't follow up an attack with another attack. An arrow can't counter a counter. An arrow can't feint an attack or change the angle of attack at the last minute. An arrow can't continue pushing forward once you halt its momentum.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Except a single arrow can't follow up an attack with another attack. An arrow can't counter a counter. An arrow can't feint an attack or change the angle of attack at the last minute. An arrow can't continue pushing forward once you halt its momentum.
But an Arrow can. 😛
Awful puns? Me? Never.
Originally posted by h1a8
Skill is irrelevant to Miyagi seeing Sunny's attack coming forward. It's all about reflexes.Miyagi has reacted and defended against faster things than Sunny's attacks.
Sunny has faster reflexes, so what is stopping Sunny from countering Miyagi's counter?
BTW, skill is not irrelevant in a fight.
Originally posted by h1a8
Skill is irrelevant to Miyagi seeing Sunny's attack coming forward. It's all about reflexes.Miyagi has reacted and defended against faster things than Sunny's attacks.
A baseball batter can bat a ball moving faster than 120MPH. Does this mean he can dodge, block strikes and contend against a professional MMA fighter?
Originally posted by Solid47Miyagi knows how to parry, many batters don't. 😕
A baseball batter can bat a ball moving faster than 120MPH. Does this mean he can dodge, block strikes and contend against a professional MMA fighter?
Also, most batters can't hit anything beyond 100mph. Where do you get 120mph from?
Also, that's a distance from 60ft away. A punch is thrown from 3-5ft away.
Originally posted by FrothByte1. Neither can a person if they are countered before they recover. 2. And no one can significantly change the angle of attack at the last moment.
1. Except a single arrow can't follow up an attack with another attack. An arrow can't counter a counter. An arrow can't feint an attack or 2. change the angle of attack at the last minute. An arrow can't continue pushing forward once you halt its momentum.
Originally posted by h1a8
Also, most batters can't hit anything beyond 100mph. Where do you get 120mph from?
Lars Andersen(https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BEG-ly9tQGk) can catch arrows even while jumping mid air. Can Andersen contend against Wanderlei Silva, Cain Velasquez, Royce Gracie or other UFC, MMA champions in a pure unarmed fight?
Originally posted by h1a8
1. Neither can a person if they are countered before they recover. 2. And no one can significantly change the angle of attack at the last moment.
1. Except Miyagi was never shown to counter someone of Sunny's skill and speed. After all, Miyagi never launched a counter attack after catching that arrow yes?
2. Who said anything about last minute? I'm talking changing angles in mid attack, which can be done as long as you don't over commit.
Originally posted by Solid47
http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2016/06/10/183198514/giancarlo-stanton-hits-hardest-ball-recorded-by-statcastLars Andersen(https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BEG-ly9tQGk) can catch arrows even while jumping mid air. Can Andersen contend against Wanderlei Silva, Cain Velasquez, Royce Gracie or other UFC, MMA champions in a pure unarmed fight?
1. That's the velocity the battery hits the ball at. Not the velocity of the pitch.
2.Defending against an attack requires reflexes AND the knowledge of parrying and blocking. Larson may or may not know how to block or parry. Also we don't know how fast the arrow was going. Most likely it was going very slowly since he managed to hit tossed objects when they were near the ground (and not when they were mid air). Finally, one must be able to counter. Great reflexes does not give one the ability to counter an attack.