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Originally posted by SquallX
Then why not just make a spy that’s black instead of turning him black?

The same way you feel about Peter, I feel the same way concerning Superman.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Because that would be copyright infringement if they wanted it set in the world of Bond lol. You're getting too worked up over the idea that the original agent was so awesome that now MI6 make's all their lead agents adopt his codename lol

Wait, so changing Bond's race is fine, but creating a new spy would be copyright infringement, how does that work?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Wait, so changing Bond's race is fine, but creating a new spy would be copyright infringement, how does that work?

It is entirely possible to obtain the rights to the James Bond IP for the setting and some of the characters and then make it star a new spy who happens to be black.

That would be incredibly stupid though. James Bond works are focused on the character, not the setting, a film where the former takes a backseat or is absent entirely would be doomed to fail.

Really though, who cares? James Bond's skin being white is not even approaching being integral to the character the way Black Panther or I would even suggest Superman's is. Being British, suave, handsome, and dangerous are, all of which apply to Idris Elba or can be portrayed believably with him as far as I know.

Originally posted by darthgoober
It's not change "Bond's" race(the original would still be white), it would be changing the race of the guy filling his shoes. Like Spidey's villain(s) the Hobgoblin, there's been several different guys to adopt that name so it really wouldn't be an issue for them to make another one who's black under the mask. Or Spiderman 2099, that guy's known to US as Spidey 2099, in his world he's just "Spiderman".

That doesn't explain how they could do that, but not create a new spy.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
How am I or Verified Hate alt-right?

Originally posted by Silent Master
That doesn't explain how they could do that, but not create a new spy.

Originally posted by SquallX
Elba is an outstanding actor, but he should not play Bond. Flemming vision of Bond was that of a white male, and that shouldn’t change just to promote some PC bullshit. If we want to see Elba as a spy so much, write him a good spy triller.

On that same note, would it be okay if a white Actor had played Black Panther?

I'm not in favor of Elba because I'm desperate for him to be played by a black man, but because I believe Elba is the best actor available who has shown interest in playing the role. He contains all the attributes that I believe define Bond - Charisma, charm, wit, good looks, and being a great actor. Him being black is secondary.

I also reject the comparison to Black Panther. BP's race is pretty integral to the character, the entire point of the character was to be a black superhero. Bond's whiteness or blackness is much more interchangeable.

As far as Flemming goes, I really don't care what he would think. He wrote the books, the movies are a different beast. I'm sure the movies have done plenty of things he didn't agree with. Makes no difference to me.

Originally posted by NemeBro
It is entirely possible to obtain the rights to the James Bond IP for the setting and some of the characters and then make it star a new spy who happens to be black.

That would be incredibly stupid though. James Bond works are focused on the character, not the setting, a film where the former takes a backseat or is absent entirely would be doomed to fail.

Really though, who cares? James Bond's skin being white is not even approaching being integral to the character the way Black Panther or I would even suggest Superman's is. Being British, suave, handsome, and dangerous are, all of which apply to Idris Elba or can be portrayed believably with him as far as I know.

Originally posted by darthgoober
It was basically a joke about doing a total knockoff of the Bond universe and getting sued. The owners to rights could obviously make a movie about a black 009 with a different name lol. But the name "Bond" itself denotes a certain type of spy/movie about the worst possible "secret agent who constantly goes on suicide missions" imaginable... it makes more sense to keep using that name lol

It also makes sense not to piss off fans and suddenly announcing that James Bond is just a title and not an actual person would piss off a certain amount of fans, even if they kept his race the same.

Idris is too old for Bond now anyway. I personally would like to see a Bond with flashbacks when he was in the Navy and Orphanage. Almost a James Bond Begins. I'd like the better modern Bond writers to have input like William Boyd and Warren Ellis.

Idiots went crazy when Elba was cast as Heimdall over skin color; idiots going crazy now over the thought of James Bond being played by a Black man

I don't think he's too old. He's 45 or so. That could give him 10 years or so to play the character. Plenty of time. Plus with his age they could do some interesting and unique subplots about him being an aging agent that they otherwise couldn't do.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It also makes sense not to piss off fans and suddenly announcing that James Bond is just a title and not an actual person would piss off a certain amount of fans, even if they kept his race the same.

What's more, the whole idea is a FAN THEORY that a lot of people already know about, it doesn't seem like a big deal for them to make it official. By the same token, the idea that Stan Lee is actually the Watcher and that's why he's always present when big shit's going down in Marvel Movies is also a fan theory that works out pretty well. I doubt there'd be a huge uproar if they confirmed it in Infinity War 2.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah but it's not like it'd be totally out of the blue. "Daniel Craig Bond" talked about how they have a short shelf life and "George Lazenby Bond" even said "That never would have happened to the other fella"(clearly referencing Connery).

It would still be a major change and some long time fans have always reacted badly to even minor changes, just look at all the sh!t the original Spider-man movies got for organic web-shooters.

Originally posted by Robtard
Idiots went crazy when Elba was cast as Heimdall over skin color; idiots going crazy now over the thought of James Bond being played by a Black man

@Backfire 45 would be old for multiple movies.

I don't agree. He could do 3 or 4 movies without issue, imo. Look at Tom Cruise and the MI movies. He's 55 and still going strong in those movies. Really don't think it would be a problem.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It would still be a major change and some long time fans have always reacted badly to even minor changes, just look at all the sh!t the original Spider-man movies got for organic web-shooters.

@putinbot1 I hear ya, when I think of Bond, I think of tall, lean/fit White man with dark hair, Pierce Brosnan basically, look-wise he fits Bond in my mind's eye.

But I'm not crying rape like some are if a Black man is cast, especially if he's a great actor.

Originally posted by BackFire
I don't agree. He could do 3 or 4 movies without issue, imo. Look at Tom Cruise and the MI movies. He's 55 and still going strong in those movies. Really don't think it would be a problem.